20 May

Ron Paul & His Racial Views

                                       

UPDATE 01-10-08

Since this post is getting a lot of hits from Google lately for the latest and greatest on Ron Paul nuttery regarding these newsletters please go here.

END UPDATE

Very interesting.  Not only does Ron Paul give some credence to the Truther nuts he appears to have had a few racist viewpoints in his past. (h/t Weasel Zippers and The Saloon)

Paul reported on gang crime in Los Angeles and commented, "If you have ever been robbed by a black teen-aged male, you know how unbelievably fleet-footed they can be."

"Given the inefficiencies of what D.C. laughingly calls the `criminal justice system,’ I think we can safely assume that 95 percent of the black males in that city are semi-criminal or entirely criminal," Paul said.

Paul also wrote that although "we are constantly told that it is evil to be afraid of black men, it is hardly irrational. Black men commit murders, rapes, robberies, muggings and burglaries all out of proportion to their numbers."

Stating that lobbying groups who seek special favors and handouts are evil, Paul wrote, "By far the most powerful lobby in Washington of the bad sort is the Israeli government" and that the goal of the Zionist movement is to stifle criticism.

Anyone really that surprised by this?  Those damn Jews and Blacks……

Sigh….

I know, I’m spending a bit too much time on this fruitcake but there is just sooooo much ammo out there.

UPDATE

Here is the complete article for which he now appears to excuse by saying it wasn’t his writing in that newsletter….even tho it’s his newsletter.

When I ask him why, he pauses for a moment, then says, “I could never say this in the campaign, but those words weren’t really written by me. It wasn’t my language at all. Other people help me with my newsletter as I travel around. I think the one on Barbara Jordan was the saddest thing, because Barbara and I served together and actually she was a delightful lady.” Paul says that item ended up there because “we wanted to do something on affirmative action, and it ended up in the newsletter and became personalized. I never personalize anything.”

His reasons for keeping this a secret are harder to understand: “They were never my words, but I had some moral responsibility for them . . . I actually really wanted to try to explain that it doesn’t come from me directly, but they campaign aides said that’s too confusing. ‘It appeared in your letter and your name was on that letter and therefore you have to live with it.’”

Yeah….

Either way, as my previous posts on our Republican Kucinich have shown, this guy is a sad embarrassment.

PAUL / MURTHA 08′

But seriously, I think I’m done with this guy.  Oh, I will post on him whenever he spouts his Blame It On America bulls&^t but until then I’m sick of hearing his name. 

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47 Responses to Ron Paul & His Racial Views

  1. Gene Trosper says: 1

    If you’d bother to do a little research, you’d find out that Ron Paul DIDN’T write those words, but they appeared in his newsletter. he says it was a mistake and he takes full responsibility for it. Plus, he has written articles which appear on his congressional website OPPOSING racism.

    The entire “Ron Paul is racist” bit was discredited a couple days ago. If you’re going to waste time, don’t do it spreading bogus information.

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  2. Gino says: 2

    read the fact guy, he has a newsletter that circulates with his name on it. He regrets that those comments were made under his title but not from his mouth. keep trying though, because you guys keep finding duds for ammo. why don’t you talk about Rudy’s clients.

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  3. n2sooners says: 3

    So, he isn’t a racist(or so he claims), but he likes to empower racists. Is that really a good quality to have in a president?

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  4. Sean says: 4

    All I can say is that I don’t see Ron Paul hobnobbing with Saudi Arabia. If you remember that is the country that teaches radical Islam. Radical Islamists from Saudi Arabia were a big part of the attack on our country that happened on 911.
    These distortions about Ron Paul are pretty funny. First he runs into some kids that want 911 investigated more. Then this is spun to that he automatically has to agree to all their wacky positions. I talk and have Democrat friends, but I don’t agree with most of their positions, but will hear them out.
    Right now I am more concerned about the top “tier” of the Republican candidates. None of them have a record of being good on taxes, spending, or personal freedom. I line up Ron Paul versus them on all the issues and find that Ron Paul represents my views more than anyone. Of course the establishment Republicans are all gun ho on giving us another Bob Dole or George Bush. Those guys will always compromise towards big government. We need someone that will take us the other way.

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  5. SlimGuy says: 5

    Paul doesn’t have a chance in this race and the spamming of blogs, poll spamming and every other tactic used by the supports of Paul are only casting him aside from many who may otherwise have given him at least a look before they walked away.

    There is simply no way to get enough lipstick and botox or plastic surgery to make the transition.

    You have all totally misjudged the backlash you are forming from your own actions.

    I suggest you re evaluate your methods and tactics.

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  6. Alex Hammer says: 6

    See also:
    Ron Paul Repasses Obama in Web Traffic and Extends Web Traffic Lead Across Major Presidential Candidates
    http://hammer2006.blogspot.com/2007/05/ron-paul-repasses-obama-in-web-trafic.html

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  7. Dave says: 7

    I was amazed to see a real cantidate like Ron Paul actually get aired by the media. He’s mostly in a blackout, commented on it during the CNN interview with Wolf Blitzer. He’s one of the few good guys in a pit of hell we have in our federal government. Dennis Kucinich is the other man who could save our nation. Nobody can touch him however because he’s honest and intelligent and quick witted. It’s really amazing to watch him represent truth and freedom.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sy4Eugc0Xls&eurl=http%3A%2F%2Fdailypaul%2Ecom%2Fnode%2F147

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  8. Flo says: 8

    Racism is simply an ugly form of collectivism, the mindset that views humans only as members of groups and never as individuals. Racists believe that all individual who share superficial physical characteristics are alike; as collectivists, racists think only in terms of groups. By encouraging Americans to adopt a group mentality, the advocates of so-called “diversity” actually perpetuate racism. Their intense focus on race is inherently racist, because it views individuals only as members of racial groups.

    Ron Paul…..you can verify these words.

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  9. Iowa Voice says: 9

    Still Think Ron Paul Isn’t A Whackjob?

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  10. V the K says: 10

    So, I guess when you mix Kool-Aid with bongwater… you get a Ron Paul supporter.

    I can’t see voting for either of the GOP front-runners. And since the Amnesty bill, the Republican party is completely dead to me. But I’m not so desperate or deranged that I’m going to throw myself at a nutjob like Ron Paul.

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  11. Nevi says: 11

    I would be furious if his statements didnt reflect the facts. You can’t blow off problems like violence among black youth just because it isnt politically correct. Then those problems are never fixed, and those same black youth suffer for the neglect..

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  12. mitzip says: 12

    Funny how neither this site, or any other site it links to about Ron Paul’s alleged racism EVER sources (links to) his newsletter (including the Houston Chronicle). It’s easy to take sentences out of context, this is very weak propaganda.

    You can really tell who the CENTCOM propagandists (http://tinyurl.com/36q73l) are when a true patriot shows up on the scene. Ron Paul is the ONLY anti-New World Order candidate.

    Go Ron Paul! Down with the neo-cons and their NWO propaganda sites.

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  13. Whats the frequency, Kenneth? says: 13

    Oops…you’re very wrong…

    http://www.reason.com/blog/show/120338.html

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  14. Bellerophon says: 14

    If you’re really interested in Ron Paul’s views on Racism, read this article by him http://www.lewrockwell.com/paul/paul381.html

    Otherwise, stop spreading hatred and misinformation.

    Ron Paul is the only decent candidate out there.

    Cheers,
    B

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  15. http://www.freemarketnews.com/WorldNews.asp?nid=41822

    Ron Paul Race Smear Erased?
    Tuesday, May 22, 2007 – FreeMarketNews.com

    Internet information claiming that presidential candidate Ron Paul (R-TX) is a racist — and made derogatory comments about African Americans – has been making the rounds within the blogosphere. But sources close to the editorial group that published the newsletter (or newsletters) that supposedly carried the comments claim that Ron Paul never had anything to do with them, and wasn’t even aware of them.

    These sources say that editorial operation in question was a fairly large one, and profitable for its time – focused in large part on measures that one could take to generate a lifestyle independent of government influence and intervention.

    The publication, or publications, comprised a business venture to which Ron Paul lent his name. Headquarters were “60 miles away” from Ron Paul’s personal Texas offices. At the time that the publications were being disseminated, primarily in the 1980s, Ron Paul was involved in numerous activities including Libertarian politics. He eventually ran for U.S. president as a Libertarian.

    “This was a big operation,” says one source. “And Ron Paul was a busy man. He was doctor, a politician and free-market commentator. A publication had to go out at a certain time and Ron Paul often was not around to oversee the lay out, printing or mailing. Many times he did not participate in the composition, either.”

    This source and others add that publications utilized guest writers and editors on a regular basis. Often these guest writers and editors would write a “Ron Paul” column, under which the derogatory comments might have been issued.

    Says one source, “Ron Paul didn’t know about those comments, or know they were written under his name until much later when they were brought to his attention. There were several issues that went out with comments that he would not ordinarily make. He was angry when he saw them.”

    Ron Paul has said that he did not write the comments in question, but, nonetheless, has taken “moral” responsibility for them.

    An excerpt from an apparent interview with Texas Monthly as quoted on the blog Everything2.com clarifies the above information as follows:

    “In spite of calls from Gary Bledsoe, the president of the Texas State Conference of the NAACP, and other civil rights leaders for an apology for such obvious racial typecasting, Paul stood his ground. He said only that his remarks about Barbara Jordan related to her stands on affirmative action and that his written comments about blacks were in the context of ‘current events and statistical reports of the time.’ He denied any racist intent. What made the statements in the publication even more puzzling was that, in four terms as a U. S. congressman and one presidential race, Paul had never uttered anything remotely like this.

    “When I ask him why, he pauses for a moment, then says, ‘I could never say this in the campaign, but those words weren’t really written by me. It wasn’t my language at all. Other people help me with my newsletter as I travel around. I think the one on Barbara Jordan was the saddest thing, because Barbara and I served together and actually she was a delightful lady.’ …

    “His reasons for keeping this a secret are harder to understand: ‘They were never my words, but I had some moral responsibility for them . . . I actually really wanted to try to explain that it doesn’t come from me directly, but they campaign aides said that’s too confusing. “It appeared in your letter and your name was on that letter and therefore you have to live with it.” ‘ It is a measure of his stubbornness, determination, and ultimately his contrarian nature that, until this surprising volte-face in our interview, he had never shared this secret. It seems, in retrospect, that it would have been far, far easier to have told the truth at the time.”

    http://everything2.com/index.pl?node=Ron%20Paul

    The operative sentence in the above would seem to be: “What made the statements in the publication even more puzzling was that, in four terms as a U. S. congressman and one presidential race, Paul had never uttered anything remotely like this.” The remarks may well have been seen as out of character because they were not written by Ron Paul, and he had no knowledge of them and no input into their composition, even though he eventually took responsibility for them.

    Adds a source aware of the current tempest over these remarks, “Anybody who claims that Ron Paul made the comments in question is deliberately mis-stating what occurred to make political points. It is a measure of [his opponents] desperation that they are dredging this up again. Anybody who reads all that he has written — and there’s lots of it — could see that right away.”

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  16. his stance on race is the typical libertarian one and those puerile attempts to smear him aren’t going to reduce his popularity because he’s actually the only real conservative running for the Republican ticket and perhaps the only one that can beat Hilary/Obama. You’ll need a magnifying glass to see a difference between a Giuliani or a McCain presidency and a Hilary Clinton presidency. And it’s funny some people here use the race card to try to discredit Ron Paul, I thought you were supposed to be politically incorrect rightwingers or something.

    RP is against birthright citizenship so under his presidency all those babies that the mexicans are pooping at such a fast pace aren’t going to be declared americans simply because their parents crossed that line in the sand

    http://youtube.com/watch?v=EF37-9OGblw

    and besides him and Tancredo who else among the Republican candidates are against the illegals ? McCain panders to La Raza and so does Giuliani and Huckabee. Huckabee once joked about the demise of white americans before a mexican audience:

    http://majorityrights.com/index.php/weblog/comments/http_majorityrightscom_indexphp_geoffs_810th_post/

    quote:
    ”Pretty soon, Southern white guys like me may be in the minority,” Huckabee said jokingly as the crowd roared in laughter.

    and he condemned the raid on a chicken plant resulting in the arrest of a hundred illegals:

    http://majorityrights.com/index.php/weblog/comments/http_majorityrightscom_indexphp_49303121/

    This guy is a real rightwing conservative patriot, right ? Seriously, what is Huckabee doing in the Republican Party, shouldn’t he be running for the Democratic Party nomination ? And how come the planners of the debate on Fox News decided not to quote him and not to ask him what’s his position on immigration ?

    Can anybody tell me the difference between a Republican giving a speech before The National Council of La Raza and a Democrat giving a speech before The National Council of La Raza ? Is one less of a traitor than the other because he’s in the GOP ?

    BTW a majority of americans are against the war in Iraq and are against amnesty for illegals and open borders and guess which candidate is against both of those follies. Clinging on to this aggressive foreign policy that is based on lies is not only going to hurt the Republican Party but it will hurt the nation for years and years.

    (how much money do you think a pro Iraq war organization could gather with voluntary donations ?)

    here’s Ron Paul’s opinion about race (I do disagree with him on this issue though, the West won’t be the West anymore if whites die. Race matters):

    Government and Racism

    http://www.house.gov/paul/tst/tst2007/tst041607.htm

    quote:

    Racism is simply an ugly form of collectivism, the mindset that views humans strictly as members of groups rather than individuals. Racists believe that all individuals who share superficial physical characteristics are alike: as collectivists, racists think only in terms of groups. By encouraging Americans to adopt a group mentality, the advocates of so-called “diversity” actually perpetuate racism. Their obsession with racial group identity is inherently racist.

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  17. Joel says: 17

    Mitt ROmney:
    Governor Mitt Romney yesterday apologized for using the expression “tar baby” … “He was very clear that he knew nothing about the history or the racist …
    http://www.boston.com/news/local/articles/2006/07/31/romney_apologizes_for_use_of_expression/

    McCain:
    On his campaign bus recently, Sen. John McCain told reporters, “I hated the gooks. I will hate them as long as I live.”
    http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/opinion/hongop.shtml

    Giuliani:
    New York’s ex-mayor Giuliani leaves a legacy of corruption and racism
    http://www.wsws.org/articles/2002/may2002/giul-m24.shtml

    Should I go on? That was very simple I just typed in each candidate and the word Racist. But Im smart enough see not to go by one source about a person’s personality. Especially during a fucking campaign for the presidency.

    So why the hate for Ron Paul? Do you think its COOL? Like hating Keanu Reeves back when it was fashionable to do so?

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  18. Mindmesh says: 18

    So why is Ron Paul a Nutjob. I hear people calling him one, but nobody can point out why.

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  19. Brady says: 19

    I take it you are unaware of the fact that Ron Paul offered to pay for a medal for Rosa Parks OUT OF HIS OWN POCKET? Or that he has mentioned the possibility of selecting Walter Williams as his running mate?

    Yeah, what a racist.

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  20. Jon P. says: 20

    I have been researching more about Ron Paul in connection with these accusations of racism. His language generally convinces me that Ron Paul is absolutely NOT a racist.

    On the other hand, he has associations with groups and personalities that have traditionally been labeled as such. It may be that he feels that some of their ideals and principles (having nothing to do with racism per se) are worthy and does not want to apologize for supporting those.

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  21. It’s good to see more information efforts to derail these false accusations of racism. I hope that what he notes about racism being an ugly form of collectivism catches on. I think our society would be greatly improved if more people understood that.

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  22. Err, this was in reply to something else, I misposted it here. I guess it still applies to the comments being made on this post though. Many of the comments here raise very good counter-points and make it clear how grasping and weak the racist charges are. -Especially- the ones that point out his quote on racism being an ugly form of collectivism.

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  23. el Roberto says: 23

    Giuliani is a murderer.

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  24. Anya says: 24

    Are you guys psycho on this website? Where did you get this information? How dare you quote Ron Paul like that? You can’t even put “-Ron Paul” after your quotes because he never said that!!! This is what Ron Paul is against – misinformation, lies, and braiwashing. You lying sacks of s$#t! Liberty will prevail.

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  25. Avatar says: 25

    Hunh, amazing how quickly the roaches come running. The fact is, he is ultimtely responsible for what is published with his name on it, whether by editor or in person.

    This all may be erroneous, but his isolationist ideals and his subscription to the so called ‘truthers’, makes him a dangerous person (to everyone).

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  26. Danni says: 26

    http://www.lewrockwell.com/paul/paul401.html

    This is an article written by Ron Paul and what he really has to say about Isolationism. The fact is, he’s been publicly quoted saying that he supports free trade and travel, so how does that make him an isolationist? People love their labels and they love to neatly file and tuck everything away with it’s proper label…the reason this man has caused such an frenzy is because you can’t label him. He has supporters from all parties and his views and consistent voting record do not fit into a nice little category, which in turn, confuses the simple minded masses and they get upset and start calling him a looney libertarian and an isolationist. It’s just a reaction to the apparent threat that he has posed. What you people don’t understand is that he’s fighting for YOU and YOUR RIGHTS while the media, giant corporations, and corrupt politicians continue to hack him to pieces. Why do they do this? The wealthiest 1% of our nation is doing just fine with the way things are and they certainly don’t want Dr. Paul over here upsetting that order. Think about it.

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  27. bagcat says: 27

    wait a second. someone show me the actual link to this newsletter please. where is it?! prove it!

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  28. Bill says: 28

    Ron Paul is the ONLY candidate running who really has the American people’s interest at heart. He’s not for big corporations and special interest. He never has taken a dime from these groups. The rest of the candidates have been bought and sold many times over… and YOU still believe their propaganda about “change”.

    The fact that the only “dirt” that anyone can even find on Ron Paul comes from some newsletters written back IN THE 1970′s ought to tell you something. For one thing, he didn’t write the words, and doesn’t support the ideas.

    Ron Paul has delivered over 4000 babies as an ob-gyn. He has never accepted Medicare or Medicaid in his medical practice because he doesn’t believe in taxing citizens to pay for other’s health care. The people he would not accept medicare from… HE TREATED FOR FREE. I bet Billary never did anything for anyone for free. I would venture to say that more than a few of those free baby deliveries were black babies. He also wants to end the “War on Drugs”, and he has stated many times that the “War” is very racially biased and the result is a disproportionate number of blacks in jail as opposed to whites.

    He has never voted to raise taxes.
    He has never voted for an unbalanced budget.
    He has never voted for a federal restriction on gun ownership.
    He has never voted to raise congressional pay.
    He has never taken a government-paid junket.
    He has never voted to increase the power of the executive branch.

    He voted against the Patriot Act.
    He voted against regulating the Internet.
    He voted against the Iraq war.

    He does not participate in the lucrative congressional pension program.
    He returns a portion of his annual congressional office budget to the U.S. treasury every year.
    ($75,000 this year alone. Who else does this?)

    I can bring up so much dirt on the other 3 major candidates its not even funny. They have stolen, lied, cheated, bullshitted so many people it boggles the mind. If you want, I can send you the links… but it’ll take me awhile… I’ve got hundreds of them.

    You people amaze me. If you’re going to dig up some dirt, at least make sure it’s real dirt.

    If you’re going to slander someone, make sure it’s not someone with a heart of gold. Ron Paul has more integrity that all the other candidates put together. And he receives more monetary support from active duty military than all the other candidates put together. Another thing that should tell you something.

    Get a life and vote for the “kook”. Otherwise… nothing will change. Watch. Vote democrat if you want to. We’ll still be in Iraq in 4 years… anyone want to wager?

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  30. kate says: 29

    is this website run by the Israeli lobby? Ron Paul is anything but a racist. Jews could not just say he does not like the Israeli lobby, they needed to make Ron Paul a racist. lol

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  31. MrSparex says: 30

    Ron Paul will be fought tooth & nail because he believes in the constitution and he’s not trying to play Robin Hood like the rest have. His biggest obstacle will be his color. Be honest and ask yourself if Obama would have gotten 98% of the black vote if he was not black? Be honest with yourself. Is that a reasonable reason to vote for someone? I want a president that cares about the well being of our country. I want to be proud of our country. Bush and Obama both have criminally stomped and ripped up our rights. Their toilet paper has the constitution and the bill of rights printed on it. WAKE UP FOLKS! It’s probably too late to save our country but Ron Paul seems to be our best bet. I you don’t know how much your share of the national debt has went up in the last 2 years SHAME ON YOU! If you don’t know what the Patriot Act is SHAME ON YOU AGAIN! Get registered…forget what color your skin is (and other peoples) and stand up for our country. I think we are too lazy and too late already. (China is laughing at us..they already own us) Ignore this next election and it’s proof you HATE your children!

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  33. George Washington says: 31

    Constitutionally, legislatively, and morally, Ron Paul has no equal. His 22 year voting record speaks for itself. The World is watching. Ron Paul for President in 2012.

    Thank You

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  36. Hard Right says: 32

    No he does not believe in the Constitution or anything else he says. You mentally ill fools who fall for his BS lash out at those who point this out. You are so desperate to cling to your fantasy you go deeper and deeper into denial of reality. Sorry. There is no knight in shining armor to make the bad bad truth go away. Really, you should call yourself somewhat fiscally conservative liberals and stop lying to yourself and others. You are not Conservatives and neither is he.
    As far as his newsletters, he let them go out and I do believe he knew what was in them.

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  37. Richard Wheeler says: 33

    H.R. Actually, according to Glenn Beck, it’s the Tea Partiers who support Gingrich that are racists.Your thoughts.
    Boehner said today “Gingrich isn’t as Conservative as many believe.” Coulter and Tea Partier Christine O’Donnell concur and are backing Romney.

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  38. Hard Right says: 34

    @Richard Wheeler:
    I don’t care what beck says. He’s always been a little loopy. He seems to have gone full wacko now.

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  39. Richard Wheeler says: 35

    H.R. says “Beck always been a little loopy” Ya think.

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  40. malize says: 36

    Paul’s an Isolationist…you can dance around it all you want, and I’m not interested in the Paulbot’s interpretation of reality. My reality is geopolitical realpolitik, and if Mr. Paul executed his stated views it would make the current administration appear downright enlightened by comparison.

    There is likely going to be a serious conflict in the next ten to fifteen years and the difference between reality based geopolitics and isolationist geopolitics determines the scope of that fight. I don’t know about you, but I’d prefer a limited regional fight instead of a general war across at least a hemisphere.

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  41. Richard Wheeler says: 37

    Malize If R.P wins Iowa the Repub. race becomes a true clusterf–k.

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  42. malize says: 38

    @Richard Wheeler:

    Even if he takes Iowa, I doubt he’ll take many other states or the overall nomination. But stranger things have happened. *shrugs* When the Dems were the ones with the wide field I thought Hillary was going to have it wrapped up by the summer at this point in the game…it’s just not sensible to call the season before even the first game is played.

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