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		<title>By: USpace</title>
		<link>http://floppingaces.net/2007/05/18/stoned-to-death-for-falling-in/#comment-3774</link>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Jul 2007 01:31:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>These people are barbaric, if it is their culture, it is barbaric and inferior...

absurd thought -
God of the Universe says
fathers may kill their daughters

if they feel dishonored
like when she dates the wrong boy
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<!-- google_ad_section_start --><p>These people are barbaric, if it is their culture, it is barbaric and inferior&#8230;</p>
<p>absurd thought -<br />
God of the Universe says<br />
fathers may kill their daughters</p>
<p>if they feel dishonored<br />
like when she dates the wrong boy<br />
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		<title>By: Curt</title>
		<link>http://floppingaces.net/2007/05/18/stoned-to-death-for-falling-in/#comment-3773</link>
		<dc:creator>Curt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 May 2007 02:53:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tell me where are honor killings and stoning done then?  Not in London where you sit behind a desk but most definitely they occur in Muslim countries where people twist Islam to permit it.

In Iran there is even the Islamic Penal Code that &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.steinigung.org/artikel/icas_what_is_stoning_.htm&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;spells out the rules&lt;/a&gt;:

&lt;blockquote&gt;The Islamic Penal Code comes in five books; the book in which stoning is legislated is called &quot;Hodoud&quot; meaning divine will punishment. According to Islamic law, sexual acts outside marriage are crimes, which are punishable by law. In the Hudoud, the so-called crimes are divided into different categories and penalties, including:

1. Article 82 of penal code states that the punishment for unlawful sexual acts in the following cases is execution, regardless of age, and marital status:

a) Incest (unlawful sex with mother, sister or any other close relative)

b) Unlawful sex with one&#039;s stepmother

c) Sexual intercourse of a non-Muslim man with a Muslim woman (Helmut Hofer, the German businessman was sentenced based on this)

d) Forced intercourse (rape) which results in the death of the victim

2. Article 83 states that the punishment for unlawful sexual intercourse in the following cases is stoning to death:

a) When a married man, who has a permanent wife and can have sex with her whenever he wishes so, commits adultery.

b) When a married woman, who is permanently married and her husband have had sex when she had been in a healthy state of mind, commits adultery with an adult man.

3. Appendix 1 states that in the case of a sexual relationship between a married woman and an underage man, the punishment is flogging.

4. Appendix 2 states that a sexual relationship between an unmarried male and an unmarried female is punishable by 100 strikes of lashes each.

5. Article 90 states that if a man or women who is being stoned manages to pull himself/ herself out of the ditch and run away, they must be pardoned. However, if a man or a woman manage to escape stoning and commit adultery again, they will be stoned again. After the fourth &quot;offence&quot; in such cases, the offender will be executed immediately.

7. Article 102 states that a man who is sentenced to death by stoning is to be buried to his waist, while a woman who is to be stoned must be buried up to her chest.

8. Article 104 defines the size of stones and stipulates: In stoning to death, the stones should not be so large that the person dies upon being hit by one or two of them, neither should they be so small that they cannot be called a stone.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

But it&#039;s because of people such as yourself, moderate Muslims, who do not stand up against radical Islam that cause the rest of the world to see this religion as evil.

If the moderate Muslims do nothing, then the War on Terror will take care of it.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<!-- google_ad_section_start --><p>Tell me where are honor killings and stoning done then?  Not in London where you sit behind a desk but most definitely they occur in Muslim countries where people twist Islam to permit it.</p>
<p>In Iran there is even the Islamic Penal Code that <a href="http://www.steinigung.org/artikel/icas_what_is_stoning_.htm" rel="nofollow">spells out the rules</a>:</p>
<blockquote><p>The Islamic Penal Code comes in five books; the book in which stoning is legislated is called &#8220;Hodoud&#8221; meaning divine will punishment. According to Islamic law, sexual acts outside marriage are crimes, which are punishable by law. In the Hudoud, the so-called crimes are divided into different categories and penalties, including:</p>
<p>1. Article 82 of penal code states that the punishment for unlawful sexual acts in the following cases is execution, regardless of age, and marital status:</p>
<p>a) Incest (unlawful sex with mother, sister or any other close relative)</p>
<p>b) Unlawful sex with one&#8217;s stepmother</p>
<p>c) Sexual intercourse of a non-Muslim man with a Muslim woman (Helmut Hofer, the German businessman was sentenced based on this)</p>
<p>d) Forced intercourse (rape) which results in the death of the victim</p>
<p>2. Article 83 states that the punishment for unlawful sexual intercourse in the following cases is stoning to death:</p>
<p>a) When a married man, who has a permanent wife and can have sex with her whenever he wishes so, commits adultery.</p>
<p>b) When a married woman, who is permanently married and her husband have had sex when she had been in a healthy state of mind, commits adultery with an adult man.</p>
<p>3. Appendix 1 states that in the case of a sexual relationship between a married woman and an underage man, the punishment is flogging.</p>
<p>4. Appendix 2 states that a sexual relationship between an unmarried male and an unmarried female is punishable by 100 strikes of lashes each.</p>
<p>5. Article 90 states that if a man or women who is being stoned manages to pull himself/ herself out of the ditch and run away, they must be pardoned. However, if a man or a woman manage to escape stoning and commit adultery again, they will be stoned again. After the fourth &#8220;offence&#8221; in such cases, the offender will be executed immediately.</p>
<p>7. Article 102 states that a man who is sentenced to death by stoning is to be buried to his waist, while a woman who is to be stoned must be buried up to her chest.</p>
<p>8. Article 104 defines the size of stones and stipulates: In stoning to death, the stones should not be so large that the person dies upon being hit by one or two of them, neither should they be so small that they cannot be called a stone.</p></blockquote>
<p>But it&#8217;s because of people such as yourself, moderate Muslims, who do not stand up against radical Islam that cause the rest of the world to see this religion as evil.</p>
<p>If the moderate Muslims do nothing, then the War on Terror will take care of it.</p>
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		<title>By: Reem</title>
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		<dc:creator>Reem</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 May 2007 02:42:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Reading a lot of your comments above has left me seething in frustration!!!

For starters the animals who killed that girl were not muslim....Islam does not permit honour killings...Stoning of an individual (as the blog guy pointed out) is NOT common practice. According to Islamic Law it is supposed to be carried out if an individual (male or female) commits adultery (i.e. has sex with someone else when married) HOWEVER the conditions in order for this punishment to be carried out are VERY strict. Four witnesses must have seen the event and must be willing to testify...It doesn&#039;t take three brain cells to figure out that people don&#039;t engage in consensual sex in a public place ESPECIALLY if sex before marriage is frowned upon.. MEANING this is rarely carried out!!!

and before you go there, rape victims are NOT accountable and  islamically speaking it is the perpetrator that should be punished.

MANY (almost all) of you have VERY VERY limited knowledge of Islam and it makes me sick that you can throw out statements that you have no/very little understanding of.

I am a proud muslim girl who is 19 - I hate male pigs who deem themselves to be superior and I KNOW that Islam does not condone such acts. Islam does not need to reform - it  is the fastest growing religion in the WORLD and NOT because it is &#039;barbaric&#039; and all the rest of that rubbish!!

Those of you who are both ignorant and bigoted need to get a grip, get smarter and learn that its not a good idea to talk about something you don&#039;t know much about!!!!
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<!-- google_ad_section_start --><p>Reading a lot of your comments above has left me seething in frustration!!!</p>
<p>For starters the animals who killed that girl were not muslim&#8230;.Islam does not permit honour killings&#8230;Stoning of an individual (as the blog guy pointed out) is NOT common practice. According to Islamic Law it is supposed to be carried out if an individual (male or female) commits adultery (i.e. has sex with someone else when married) HOWEVER the conditions in order for this punishment to be carried out are VERY strict. Four witnesses must have seen the event and must be willing to testify&#8230;It doesn&#8217;t take three brain cells to figure out that people don&#8217;t engage in consensual sex in a public place ESPECIALLY if sex before marriage is frowned upon.. MEANING this is rarely carried out!!!</p>
<p>and before you go there, rape victims are NOT accountable and  islamically speaking it is the perpetrator that should be punished.</p>
<p>MANY (almost all) of you have VERY VERY limited knowledge of Islam and it makes me sick that you can throw out statements that you have no/very little understanding of.</p>
<p>I am a proud muslim girl who is 19 &#8211; I hate male pigs who deem themselves to be superior and I KNOW that Islam does not condone such acts. Islam does not need to reform &#8211; it  is the fastest growing religion in the WORLD and NOT because it is &#8216;barbaric&#8217; and all the rest of that rubbish!!</p>
<p>Those of you who are both ignorant and bigoted need to get a grip, get smarter and learn that its not a good idea to talk about something you don&#8217;t know much about!!!!</p>
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		<title>By: unknown</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 25 May 2007 21:53:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>for ur kind information islamic punishments are not like this...
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<!-- google_ad_section_start --><p>for ur kind information islamic punishments are not like this&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: MICHAEL in MI</title>
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		<dc:creator>MICHAEL in MI</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 May 2007 20:12:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry, you did not say &quot;radical&quot; Islam, you said &quot;fanatical&quot;.  Still, that is wrong as well.  It is only &quot;fanatical&quot; when compared to Western civilization.  (Granted, who are we to judge when we consider killing the unborn for the sake of &quot;inconvenience&quot; to be just and right... but I digress...)

We need to stop saying &quot;fanatical&quot; and &quot;radical&quot; and call this what it is:  Islamic sharia law.  And it needs to be reformed.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<!-- google_ad_section_start --><p>Sorry, you did not say &#8220;radical&#8221; Islam, you said &#8220;fanatical&#8221;.  Still, that is wrong as well.  It is only &#8220;fanatical&#8221; when compared to Western civilization.  (Granted, who are we to judge when we consider killing the unborn for the sake of &#8220;inconvenience&#8221; to be just and right&#8230; but I digress&#8230;)</p>
<p>We need to stop saying &#8220;fanatical&#8221; and &#8220;radical&#8221; and call this what it is:  Islamic sharia law.  And it needs to be reformed.</p>
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		<title>By: MICHAEL in MI</title>
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		<dc:creator>MICHAEL in MI</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 May 2007 20:08:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Curt - One quibble.  We are not fighting &quot;radical Islam&quot;.  Islamic sharia law is not &quot;radical&quot;, it *is* Islam.  Current Islam is not radical, it is what it is.  What we need to do is change normal Islam, which includes practicing sharia law, to liberal Islam, which stops Muslims from practicing sharia law.

In the meantime though, we need to stop being so PC and stop calling normal Islam &quot;radical Islam&quot;.  Sharia law is only &quot;radical&quot; when compared to what we are used to in Western civilization.  But sharia law is not &quot;radical&quot; for Islam, it is normal.

That is what needs to change through reform of Islam, but it won&#039;t be if we keep referring to what is normal in Islam as &quot;radical&quot;.

Otherwise, great post.  I believe it is the right thing to do to keep putting this stuff out there to shine the light on the true Islam and Islamic sharia law.  It is the only way people will understand the truth about Islam and force Muslims to reform Islam.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<!-- google_ad_section_start --><p>Curt &#8211; One quibble.  We are not fighting &#8220;radical Islam&#8221;.  Islamic sharia law is not &#8220;radical&#8221;, it *is* Islam.  Current Islam is not radical, it is what it is.  What we need to do is change normal Islam, which includes practicing sharia law, to liberal Islam, which stops Muslims from practicing sharia law.</p>
<p>In the meantime though, we need to stop being so PC and stop calling normal Islam &#8220;radical Islam&#8221;.  Sharia law is only &#8220;radical&#8221; when compared to what we are used to in Western civilization.  But sharia law is not &#8220;radical&#8221; for Islam, it is normal.</p>
<p>That is what needs to change through reform of Islam, but it won&#8217;t be if we keep referring to what is normal in Islam as &#8220;radical&#8221;.</p>
<p>Otherwise, great post.  I believe it is the right thing to do to keep putting this stuff out there to shine the light on the true Islam and Islamic sharia law.  It is the only way people will understand the truth about Islam and force Muslims to reform Islam.</p>
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		<title>By: Brian</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 May 2007 15:22:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Religion of Peace
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<!-- google_ad_section_start --><p>Religion of Peace</p>
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		<title>By: Cornfed</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cornfed</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 May 2007 04:33:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>After the first Gulf War I was part of the kurdish relief effort, feeding and providing protection from the Iraqi military. This makes me wonder why.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<!-- google_ad_section_start --><p>After the first Gulf War I was part of the kurdish relief effort, feeding and providing protection from the Iraqi military. This makes me wonder why.</p>
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		<title>By: tree</title>
		<link>http://floppingaces.net/2007/05/18/stoned-to-death-for-falling-in/#comment-3766</link>
		<dc:creator>tree</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 May 2007 01:54:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>17 year old girl was stoned to death on the streets (that was really painful(i must say more than pain), this is open murder in the day  (even the law of the country could not stop that)?, she dont deserve that,  i think human rights groups have to wake up. the girl is gone. but her death should not be wasted.  i dont know what to say but that was really extreme painful act.

God Bless Her Soul

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<!-- google_ad_section_start --><p>17 year old girl was stoned to death on the streets (that was really painful(i must say more than pain), this is open murder in the day  (even the law of the country could not stop that)?, she dont deserve that,  i think human rights groups have to wake up. the girl is gone. but her death should not be wasted.  i dont know what to say but that was really extreme painful act.</p>
<p>God Bless Her Soul</p>
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		<title>By: Sajjad</title>
		<link>http://floppingaces.net/2007/05/18/stoned-to-death-for-falling-in/#comment-3765</link>
		<dc:creator>Sajjad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 May 2007 23:05:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>oh my god, I realy dont know what to say, This is first time ever im writing in forum and im writing now to express my felling, This is so hard to watch, I read somewhere that almost 2000 men was at the place when this excusion took place, I would pay or i dont know,,do everthing so in some way this men understand what they have done,

If it was up too me i would excute each and everyone of this men, speacialy her brothers,

I hope this girl have a good place now in the heaven,
God bless her,,


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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<!-- google_ad_section_start --><p>oh my god, I realy dont know what to say, This is first time ever im writing in forum and im writing now to express my felling, This is so hard to watch, I read somewhere that almost 2000 men was at the place when this excusion took place, I would pay or i dont know,,do everthing so in some way this men understand what they have done,</p>
<p>If it was up too me i would excute each and everyone of this men, speacialy her brothers,</p>
<p>I hope this girl have a good place now in the heaven,<br />
God bless her,,</p>
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