A Horror Story Hidden from National Attention
On Saturday January 6, 2007 Hugh Christopher Newsom, age 23 and Channon Gail Christian, age 21, both students at the University of Tennessee went out on a date.
They were driving in Channon’s Toyota 4-Runner when they were carjacked at gunpoint. Suddenly the crime turned far more savage than an armed car theft. Chris and Channon were kidnapped and driven to 2316 Chipman Street where they were forced into the home at gunpoint. While Channon was forced to watch, her boyfriend was raped prison style and then his penis was cut off. He was later driven to nearby railroad tracks where he was shot and set afire. But Channon’s hell was just beginning. She was beaten; gang raped repeatedly in many ways, had one of her breasts cut off and bleach poured down her throat to destroy DNA evidence—all while she was still alive. To add to Channon’s degradation the suspects took turns urinating on her. They too set her body afire, apparently inside the residence, but for some reason left her body there—in five separate trash bags.
The District Attorney General of Knox County later announced the arrests of the following five suspects and the charges they’d face:
Lemaricus “Slim” Davidson, age 25 faces a total of 46 charges. Davidson was indicated on 16 counts of Felony Murder growing out of rape, robbery, kidnapping and theft of Channon Christian and Christopher Newsom. Two counts premeditated murder of Christian and Newsom, 4 counts especially aggravated kidnapping of Christian and Newsom, 20 counts aggravated rape of Christian and Newsom and 2 counts of theft from Christian and Newsom.
Latalvis “Rome” Cobbins, age 24, faces a total of 46 charges. Cobbins was indicted on 16 counts of Felony Murder growing out of rape, robbery, kidnapping and theft of Channon Christian and Christopher Newsom. Two counts especially aggravated robbery from Christian and Newsom, 4 counts especially aggravated kidnapping of Christian and Newsom, 20 counts of aggravated rape of Christian and Newsom and 2 counts of theft from Christian and Newsom.
George “Detroit” Thomas, age 24, faces a total of 46 charges. Thomas was indicated on 16 counts of Felony Murder growing out of rape, robbery, kidnapping and theft of Channon Christian and Christopher Newsom. Two Counts of premeditated murder of Christian and Newsom, 2 counts especially aggravated robbery from Christian and Newsom, 4 counts especially aggravated kidnapping of Christian and Newsom, 20 counts of aggravated rape of Christian and Newsom and 2 counts of theft from Christian and Newsom.
Vanessa Coleman, age 18, faces a total of 40 Tennessee State charges. Coleman was indicated on 12 Counts of Felony Murder growing out of rape, robbery, kidnapping and theft of Channon Christian and Christopher Newsom. One count premeditated murder of Christian only, 1 count of especially aggravated robbery of Newsom only, 4 counts especially aggravated kidnapping of Christian and Newsom, 20 counts of aggravated rape of Christian and Newsom and 2 counts of theft from Christian and Newsom.
Eric “E” Boyd, age 24, was arrested in connection with the carjacking, but faces only federal charges as an accessory after the fact.
I wasn’t aware of this incident until a friend brought it to my attention May 9th.
Until then I’d never heard even a single comment regarding this brutal crime mentioned by any of our national news media.
We had the death of Anna Nicole Smith shoved down our throats by ABC, NBC, CBS, CNN, MSNBC and FOX News (if we cared to watch) for hours on end over a period of several weeks. I didn’t give a rat’s ass about some overweight, drugged out, has-been bimbo who was apparently willing to crawl into bed with any man who had anything vaguely resembling a pulse. Yet, I couldn’t turn on the television without some new twist in the Anna Nicole saga being discussed. The only victim in this entire matter is the poor baby who was used as a pawn by everyone with dollar signs in their eyes.
Just about the time the Anna Nicole Smith epic was winding down we had Don Imus and the “Nappy headed hos” comment that grabbed headlines around the world. So, for another two or three weeks we were bombarded with cries of insensitivity and racism while Al Sharpton frantically tried to arouse the fires of racial hatred.
Why wasn’t the nation informed of the brutal rape, mutilation and murder of Christopher Newsom and Channon Christian? Was it because they were white and the suspects black? That certainly seems to be the opinion among thousands who have very angrily commented on this case in daily blogs. There are accusations that the press has a double standard when race is a component of crime. One example given was how often do we hear about a suspect wanted for a crime described as a “white male,” but when the suspect is black no mention of race is made? Like it or not, I’ve heard this quite often from the Baltimore and Washington television stations. Though I will also report that I’ve heard the race given when the suspect is black. I don’t know if it’s station policy or the beliefs of particular reporters broadcasting the news when it comes to the offering of a full description of a suspect or not. But, in my opinion, when you air a broadcast and ask the public to provide information regarding a suspect and his or her whereabouts, you should publish the complete description and that includes race—no exceptions.
The murders of Chris Newsom and Channon Christian have brought a firestorm of criticism directed toward the national media and rightly so. There are glaring gaps in the reporting of crimes when race is an issue. We need only to look at Duke University and the accusations leveled against members of the lacrosse team. The media went wild in reporting the alleged rape of a black woman by white team members. The press couldn’t wait to put Duke University, the players, the lacrosse team coach and the white race in general on trial for this reported atrocity. Not only did the press put them on trial, but also convicted everyone involved before all the evidence had been collected and analyzed and the investigation completed. Of course, Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton couldn’t wait to jump in front of any and all cameras available and go on the attack. This was their moment to shine once again by standing tall for the rights of the “victim” and scream racism. They had the privileged white boys of Duke in their sights and were going to mow them, their families and friends down. And seizing the opportunity to hype his political aspirations was District Attorney Mike Nifong. He declared the players guilty and the media was damn near choking on their exuberance to build the gallows and braid the hangman’s noose. Plastered on every televised news report and on the front page of every newspaper across the nation are the photographs and names of the accused players. By God, there’s a good old fashioned lynching brewing and those privileged white boys are gonna be hangin’ by their rich necks. Oops. It seems somebody forgot the evidence. You know, the proof needed to confirm beyond a reasonable doubt the guilt of the accused players. Crystal Gail Mangum, the alleged victim of the rape, had seven different DNA samples on her body and clothing and none of the DNA belonged to even one of the Duke Lacrosse players. The repercussions from the false allegation of rape by Mangum are still reverberating throughout the entire community. But media attention dwindled to almost nothing very quickly when the “race card” died and there was nothing left for them to sensationalize. To the lacrosse players and Duke University the media said, “screw you and the fact that we did our best to ruin your reputations. Our ratings skyrocketed and that’s all that matters.”
As far as the rape, mutilation and murders of Channon Christian and Christopher Newsom, some in the media are saying this case doesn’t represent a hate crime. Well, it sure as hell doesn’t symbolize a night of love and bonding between the young couple and those who butchered them. Was the cutting off of Chris’ penis an act of human kindness? Was the cutting off of Channon’s breast and pouring bleach down her throat an act of compassion and love? This was pure hatred, nothing less. How could any person of sound mind and thinking look at this case and say with absolute certainty that hate wasn’t involved in the commission of the atrocities against Christian and Newsom?
Reading over dozens of pages on the Christian and Newsom murders and other cases I noted many angry comments one of which said the media has a recent history of “blacking out” certain news stories when race is involved. The Wichita Massacre was referenced as one of these. The Carr brothers executed four white victims, after forcing them to kneel naked in a frozen field in Kansas. A fifth intended victim lived when a bullet fired toward her head knocked her unconscious instead of killing her. She was able to identify her attackers who were arrested and charged with other violent crimes as well.
Yet, their vicious crimes were treated to a media “black out.” Here cries of bias are raised because the murder of James Byrd, a black man, dragged to death by three white men received top media billing. But the Byrd case was only one of the examples used to point out the disparity in reporting.
I won’t attempt to write a lengthy commentary on this issue. Instead I’ll refer you to the various web sites that can be found detailing all of these cases. You need only enter the names Channon Christian and Christopher Newsom to open the dozens of sites and blogs that tell of and talk about these crimes. But be forewarned that you will find some shocking and sickening incidents of violence. And maybe your views will be similar to mine after you read about these events—the perpetrators, white and black, are indeed a subhuman culture and should be erased permanently from society. They should become nothing more than a bad memory in a faded photograph.
I’ve always believed the motto “No one is above the law, nor is anyone below it.” I’ve held a belief that the law was and is for everyone, regardless of race, religion or ethnic background and when it comes to crime and justice everyone should be treated equally. I don’t care if a person accused of a crime is considered privileged because of wealth and fame or they’re from a row home in the city, the law should apply equally.
I feel the same about media coverage of crimes. If you’re going to beat the drums
loudly, point fingers and cry racism or hate, do it without bias. Bang your drums and point your fingers, but make sure you cover all races with equal fervor. When the media tires to play the game of “politically correct” by concealing facts regarding the race of suspects in a case, they are guilty of inciting racial prejudice. We can find enough of that in our society without the media further fanning the flames of bigotry.
Maybe Doctor Martin Luther King said it best. “Injustice anywhere is a threat to justice everywhere.”
UPDATE 7-14-07
This post is getting a ton of attention so I figured I would update it with what’s new. Which isn’t a whole lot. The killers attorneys appeared in court five days ago:
Attorneys for the four suspects in the brutal rape and murder of a Knoxville couple appeared in court Monday.
Lemaricus Davidson; his brother, Letalvis Cobbins; and George Thomas were indicted on 46 counts, including first-degree murder.
Vanessa Coleman was indicted on 40 counts, also including murder, in connection with the deaths of Channon Christian and Christopher Newsom.
The suspects won’t be in court until July 30th and only one trial date has been set so far. That one is for Letalvis Cobbins and the date for that one is May 12th, 2008.
Crossposted from Baltimore Reporter
Rob, this is the first I’ve heard of this. Capital punishment is too good for these five monsters. I wish they could experience the horrors they inflicted upon their victims. And if that makes me a bad person, good!
As far as the media blackout, I can’t make sense of why some stories make national headlines and others don’t. I don’t know if it’s always about race. There was that obsession over that white girl who disappeared in Aruba…Greta van Sustern (who I cannot stand) was all over that. You’d think the potential sensationalism of this story would grab her attention.
I pray for the families of Channon and Hugh. I for one will never willingly go with anyone who insists I get in the car with them. I’ll take my chances with being shot at, if there’s such an opportunity.
Old Soviet style justice for these pieces of filth, 9 mm in the back of the head, and make them buy the bullet.
Scanning the “Sighing” Sphere
Nosing around the news and blogs, in no particular order…
President Bush conducted an orchestra playing Stars and Stripes Forever. I’m sure we will see no videotape on this, however. Apparently he didn’t suck at it. If it’s n…
SPO… if these guys are the ones who did it, I vote that we make arrangements with the GRU to borrow their blast furnace.
UPDATE on a horrendous crime — but details are still unverified
Last month I wrote three posts about the brutal double rape and murder in Tennessee. The crime was about as horrible a crime I’ve read about, except that there was no way to verify the most gruesome (and widely repeated)…
These 4 will probably get off on the OJ/Football Williams defense. Heck I even hear they are going to dig up Johnny Cochran for lead defense lawyer. When are crackers* going to accept that this is all a part of the Slavery Reconciliation Act enacted by the Congressional Black Caucus, and has full non-partisan approval from the Assoc. Press, the ACLU, and the Southern Poverty Law Center!
Remember, there are the ghosts of a couple hundred years ago to appease!
*(Being one, it’s okay to use this racial-specific term!)
Having said that, if they fail in aqquital, being fed feet first into a wood-chipper seems a bit on the compassionate side, donchathink???
The murders of Channon Christian and Christopher Newsom: Media double standards working overtime
Imagine this: A young black couple in Knoxville, TN go out for a night on the town, but instead are viciously murdered – their bodies mutilated and burned, after being brutally gang raped, sodomized, and tortured at the hands of five white thugs. The …
The local ‘Media General’ propaganda outlet ran a couple of small articles on this and dropped it. Not more than 30 seconds a couple of times on the antique MSM broadcast outlets. Evidently they didn’t want to upset the racist followers of Rev Je$$ie and $harpton, but just ask them, race had nothing to do with the lack of coverage.
The chief suspect in the case of the girl in Aruba is white.
Don’t just sit there doing nothing White man…JOIN US AT THE KNOXVILLE RALLY!
Details here: http://www.vnnforum.com/forumdisplay.php?f=71
If there’s no way you can possibly be at the rally, AT LEAST HELP SPREAD THE WORD!
Hal Turner will be talking about the rally TONIGHT on his radio show: http://halturnershow.com/
knoxville murders ignored by press
This is absolutely sickening. The video below comes from Hotair.com’s Vent with Michelle Malkin. The text following comes from Wikipedia.com. Despite the horrific nature of these murders, they received virtually no coverage in the mainstream media. Som…
Not only race, sexual preference is blocked, too. Remember the case from Wyoming, Matthew Shepherd? Now he’s a matyr. What about the 13 year old boy who was “kept” for several days by two homosexuals – Jesse Dirkhising? Why did I never hear Jesse’s death mentioned but Matthew’s was trumpeted. Shepherd’s death was a ‘hate crime’, so what was Jesse’s? A ‘love crime’ – did they ‘love him to death’? Yet those two “men” are part of a group protected by ‘hate legislation’.
What’s the difference?
http://www.americansfortruth.org/search/?query=jesse+dirkhising&search=1
I was originally puzzled as to why the Newsom and Christian murders weren’t deemed newsworthy. Why was this terribly depraved double-murder ignored while the Duke rape case received such endless media coverage? Dare I say that when the murderous perpetrators are either homosexual or black, and the victims are children or white, it just doesn’t fit as “newsworthy” in the minds of liberals who are the obviously dominating presence in the newsrooms across America ? What’s more, in their loonie left daft opinion, there is no way that such horrible crimes as this case (as well as additional ones listed in my blog entry) would merit being labeled as “hate crimes.”
Why???
We seriously need to ask and answer that question!
Why are certain crimes worthy of being labeled “hate crimes” and others are not?
There must be something else behind this trend.
Anybody care to guess??
I’ll tell you.
Is there a reason why my last comment was deleted here?
My God, I have no words ……..
I first read about the horrific murders of Christopher Newsom and Channon Christian last night. It seems that bloggers are the only ones currently covering not only the utterly heinous and evil depravity of these criminal murderers, but they are also addressing the very important question as to why this story has been basically ignored by the MSM.
Here’s my theory over at Talkwisdom.
I would like to add just one item, at least one of the perps is a member of the Black Supremist group “Black Gangsta Disciples” which would lead one to think that yes indeed this was a racially motivated crime. Would any MSM reporter say a case involving Blacks tortured and killed by members of a White Supremacy group was not racially motivated? I think not. Further backing this is another report on a organisation, Black Poverty Speaks, that will be “Celebrating the Carjackers” believe it or not!
http://www.nowpublic.com/knox_blacks_celebrate_carjacking_rapists_in_party
Hey Mark, since you mention the suspect for the Aruban case is white, you’re justifying the hate crime perpetrated by 6 black thugs to two white people? You are one sad racist puke!
If jailing people didn’t require so many tax dollars to pay for these rejects I’d be all for locking them up and throwing away the key. Since my tax dollars ARE involved in keeping these types of people alive and fed and watching cable tv I am of the opinion that since they will no longer be serving a worthwhile purpose in life while they sit behind bars that we the good people of the world pay for, put a bullet in each of their heads and be done with them.
I thought Mark was explaining his theory on why the mainstream media deemied this case worthy…
A hate crime the MSM’s somehow missed. [not for children] Hugh Christopher Newsom and Channon Gail Christian killed by hate.
On Saturday January 6, 2007 Hugh Christopher Newsom, age 23 and Channon Gail Christian, age 21, both students at the University of Tennessee went out on a date.
They were driving in Channon’s Toyota 4-Runner when they were carjacked at gunpoint. Sud…
JBB use a rope be environmentally friendly.
The thought of their families paying a dime to keep them alive is utterly evil.
What is BadLeaders talking about? NOTHING justifies these murders.Maybe I misunderstood the angle,of reasoning.The Aruba case has nothing to do with this. As far as the media is concerned…only white people can commit hate crimes…that’s the fraud the media pushes on the public.
death is to good for these monkeys,..they deserve to be mutilated and killed in public,….seeing their battered mutilated carcasses swinging from a rope is the only thing that would satisfy me…
I hear the parents are insisting that this isnt a race issue and those that propogate it as a race issue should “stay out of it”. Looks like the parents are smart folks.
Rumor also has it that the parents did not want national attention of the crime, wanted a full investigation and wanted to eliminate all possibility that the two students were looking for drugs when they were carjacked.
I want all five shot in the head, point-blank. I will pull the trigger. Either that, or drop them through the trapdoor. I’ll be the hangman.
This was a “hate crime.”
Emma Goldmann, B.A.
AHRS Founder
Fiction vs. fact in the Christian-Newsom double homicide
By News Sentinel staff
May 27, 2007
The allegations in the court case alone are chilling. The falsehoods being used to heat up controversy over the case are disturbing. Here are the most common claims circulating on the Internet and in some traditional media, compared with statements from court records and authorities familiar with the Christian-Newsom double homicide.
Fiction: Christian was held captive 4 days.
Fact: Christian was dead within 24 hours of the kidnapping.
Fiction: Christian’s breasts were cut off and Newsom’s penis severed.
Fact: Neither Christian nor Newsom was mutilated, although both suffered tearing injuries from being repeatedly raped.
Fiction: Christian was dismembered and placed in five separate trash bags.
Fact: Christian’s intact body was wrapped in trash bags and dumped in a large garbage can.
Fiction: Acid was poured down Christian’s throat.
Fact: A cleaning solution was poured in Christian’s mouth in an apparent attempt to wash away DNA evidence.
Fiction: The slaying suspects allegedly targeted white people.
Fact: The slaying suspects have told authorities they targeted Christian’s Toyota 4Runner.
There are no words to describe the extent of my disgust at, not only the crime, but the cover up by the media. Others have addressed the crime. Here is my take on the media. The media is owned by the rich, who also own our politicians. The rich and their minions are interested in creating a world economy and a world government, which they will control. As a side-note take notice that terrorism has been granted a niche market by our government, through the fighting of “civilized” war, respecting religion and territorial boundaries thats grant them sanctuary. For example, recall the Al Queda operatives gathered, en mass, at the funeral of one of their own, photographed by U.S. military hardware. These terrorists went unmolested. Rather than firing a hellfire missile at this elusive group a photo was taken, demonstrating our respect for religious gatherings. The existence of these terrorists is then used as a basis to suspend our Constitutional rights, moving us one step closer to those nations thats are not “of, by, and for the people”. The media is portraying the black community as the poor victim of society, to justify the social programs which also move us one step closer to socialism. The reality is that both black Americans and white americans, who work, that is, should be focused on the fact that our government is no longer a democratic republic, but an oligarchy of the rich. By emphasizing the poor blacks they are fragmenting us, and thwarting any unified stand against what is happening in America (West Europe). What is happening to America is almost as bad as what happened to that poor young white couple.
There are more details about the murders on AmRen
http://www.amren.com/mtnews/archives/2007/05/the_knoxville_h.php
the mainstream media has a long history of covering up black on white crimes while propagandizing racial guilt by making a big deal out of some rare white on black crimes. It’s been going on for decades.
Melissa McLaughlin was raped tortured and murdered in 1992 by a gang of blacks in a manner very similar to Channon Christian. One of the murderers was finally executed 2 years ago:
http://www.woodtv.com/Global/story.asp?S=3066227
But I bet you’ve never heard of Melissa McLaughlin and I bet that back in that year her murder was only a quickly buried local story.
In San Francisco members of a violent branch of the Nation of Islam killed tens of whites to climb the echelons of their organization. It was known as the Zebra Killings but I bet most americans who lived during the 70s don’t remember the murders.
http://www.mensnewsdaily.com/blog/stix/2005/10/lest-we-forget-remembering-zebra.html
according the American Renaissance’s booklet The Color of Crime there’s about 3,000 black on white gang rapes EVERY YEAR and Lawrence Auster in FrontPageMag the other day looked at the figures and concluded that EVERY DAY there’s a 100 white women raped by blacks. I could make a very long list of horrible stories of black on white rape/torture/murder that should have been national news.
But for example when three ex-cons killed that black guy in Jasper TX it was like a nuclear bomb had exploded on New York, it was non stop nationwide media coverage and CLinton and Reno were in front of cameras saying how horrible the crime was and so on and all the liberal dimwits jumped on the bandwagon.
Here a liberal cretin at Salon.com talks about that murder and racism in Texas, you know the big bad racist state of Texas whose school age population is less and less white and more and more mexican :
http://www.salon.com/news/feature/1999/10/25/jasper/index.html
do a Google search for “James Byrd” +murder and compare it to “Melissa McLaughlin” +murder. I can only conclude that this media coverage of the James Byrd murder was a big hate campaign against whites. I mean it’s just as obvious as 2 + 2, they only care about murder victims or hate crime victims when A) they’re not white and B) when the murderers are white.
The mainstream media creates the news by carefully selecting the events that they cover and their decisions have nothing to do with the well being of the majority. Anything that’s bad for whites they’re all for it, anything that would be good for white whether it’s intended or not they’re all against it. They create this make fantasy world where blacks being eternal victims are entitled to commit all the crimes they want and if whites resist this racial assault against them they push the red button and the alarm goes off – RACISM ! RACISM ! RACISM ! RACISM !
I stopped watching TV years ago and I don’t even read the NYTimes website, I get my news from blogs and news websites and I’m so glad I’m not giving a penny to those politically correct liberal presstitutes. They make me sick and I consider them to be the partners in crime of the murderers of Channon and Hugh and of all the black or mexican murderers of tomorrow.
There will be more murders like this one, more innocent victims that the liberal sickos and the mainstream media will sweep under the rug.
Rob,
I agree with all you said. We have a real problem in this country. There are no consequences for breaking our laws. We need to make an example of these five monsters. Their deaths should take several hours and be very painful. We need to put their executions on TV so the rest of the criminals out there get to see what will happen to scumbags like this.
Shocking. Simply shocking brutality, and even more shocking that this was the first I’ve heard of this– and I read international, national, and local news sites every day! I’m no fan of Bill O’Reilly at Fox News, but I would send this story to his attention, people need to hear about this.
This story just makes me so mad and makes me cry. It saddens me so much that we never heard about it on the news. I have 2 teen age kids and my daughter is leaving for college next year and I am scared to death to let her go. I want to lock my kids up and not let them out of the house. We used to live in Louisville Kentucky and know all about racial things. The news there is very biased and always wants to report in a biased way.
Just shows what a dirty shithole america is
Yeah, like Rosemary West who kidnapped and made into sex slaves 10 girls before executing them in ur beloved Britain? Or Maninder Pal Singh Kohli, the rapist and killer of Hannah Foster…again, in your beloved Britain.
Human scum exist everywhere but idiots like yourself ignore this.
i just heard about this and i am speechless, these guys really have no heart or soul.
what i want to know is why they had to do this and kill them this way?
also, they dont need to wait a year before they go to court, i would like to say, they need to have the samething done to them and see how they like it.
I can’t believe people can be so evil. Why in the hell are we giving these animals a trail and waste the taxpayers money. They are guilty as sin. They should be killed the way they killed the victims. Putting them in jail for life or putting them to death is to good for them. Why in the hell did they had to kill her like that. It makes no sense and why kill him like that?? They are animals plain and simple. I say take the guys and rape, mutilation them. For her just sent her to iran or iraq they would deal with her. heheheh.. Sound mean who cares. They don’t desevre to live. They are just a waste of human tissue.
These rabid beasts should be pithed like frogs and then buried in a dung heap!
It’s horrifying what is going on and being covered up. All decent people need to contact their Congressperson and request a change. Any murder or gang rape (two or more) against a member of another race should be defined as a hate crime.
Also, educate your family & friends.
Very sickening!! i think the whites should get on the street and show their support to their kit and kin. It’s so sickening.
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I spent 5 years in prison for something people get 3 months for ( intimidation of a witness) . Take my word when I tell you that life in prison is better than most live on the street. They receive medical care, food 3 times a day, play sports, and laugh with their homeboys. Don’t get me wrong…prison can be tough, but it is much too nice of a place for anyone guilty of these crimes. These cowards deserve to be tortured before they are killed. That is a language they understand.
If you do a Google search, you will see that this story was not has hidden as you claim. People have been blogging about it since the day it happened, including myself. I have MANY posts on Chris and Channon AND one on Melissa McLaughlin, who you seem to think no one knows of. Some do, some people educate themselves on society and the crimes happening, especially since the triggerman in Melissa’s case was sentenced to death (and rightfully so).
One thing not mentioned thus far, one defendant, Eric Boyd, has been convicted of his charges. He has not been sentenced yet.
People do care about these cases.
Bonnie,
You are correct that there are bloggers and other “New Media” outlets covering this story.
I think that Rob was trying to make the larger point that this story has not been picked up and carried by the traditional media like one would expect.
There has been virtually no newspaper coverage outside of local TN newspapers. To my knowledge the TV coverage has been equally localized.
Why has the MSM chosen to be silent on this story instead of reporting it on the scale that they chose to carry the Duke case or the Brawley case?
Is it because Newsome and Christian have skin which is not the right color?
Or are these “news” outlets afraid that they will be accused of racism when they broadcast the photos of the creatures who did this?
I appreciate the diligent effort that you and other bloggers do to get these stories out. We, together, can make a difference in getting the word out and keeping the pressure on in situations like this.
I wonder what we would need to do to get the “Old Media” to put forth such due diligence.
Personally, I would rather be informed of events such as these rather than knowing about the underwear that Britney isn’t wearing.
this is fucking sick!they should make a movie about this so more people could know
but you need to shut the hell up about raise and all that it doesn’t matter what color they were that had shit to do with anything especially if your saying the media is racist toward white people because if anything the media is racist to everyone but white people so shut your mouth about that
I cannot believe how quick black on white crime is dismissed because AL SHARPTEN AND JESSIE JACKSON can come to the rescue, but wait who the hell comes to these to kids rescue wait I hear silence bunch of media racism and rating approvals.Martin Luther King JR is rolling in his grave at the way his movement has turned out.Integration not segregation that was his main objective then you get loud mouth al sharpten and jessie jackson involved who dont have a clue and cant see past they dolla dolla bill signs it sickens me and I will be writting to cnn and nbc and cbs and anyone who will listen and respect the fact that this crime should have been televised im so ashamed of the media and why dont we haVe a (Wet) white entertainment television and why (uwcf) united white college fund owhats good for one race is good for another DONT TAKE THIS STUFF LYING DOWN PEOPLE OR WE ARE AS BAD AS THESE PEOPLE and what about black history month thats cool but where the fuck is white history month what the fuck
NATTURNER67 U ARE A FUCKING IDIOT DUMB ASS
WAIT DUMB ASS 2 KLIFFIGLE IDIOT YES THATS WHAT HE IS SAYING YOU LITTLE YOUNG PUNK U TRYING TO DENY IT YOUR EYES SO BLIND YOU CANT SEE YALL ARE GETTING SHIT HANDED TO YOU BECAUSE OF YOUR COLOR OK THEN SHUT THE HELL UP AND GO CHANGE YOUR DIAPERS
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What’s funny about this whole thing is the fact that you people are so absolutely consumed with hatred within yourselves that you put the blame on others with a different skin color, religion, or whatever it might be. But for argument’s sake, let’s assume this event was racially charged. While I would never agree with something done in “retaliation”, why are you so upset over a white couple or person, (depending on the story we are talking about), being killed by someone of a different race yet blacks who were enslaved for HUNDREDS of years were tortured, raped, murdered, and God knows what else and that is ok. They should just deal with it because past is past, right? You bigots are so hypocritical it is beyond belief! Get over the thought of skin color making someone who they are!! There are MANY white, black, hispanic, asian, and other people that are successful, kind, intelligent, and most of all, not full of unfortunate hatred. To clump one part of a race as being the end all description of that race is not only wrong, it is downright irresponsible. Do you think that all white people are of absolute quality? I could go down the list of examples that prove this perception otherwise.
Oh and by the way, I’m white, Christian, and happen to be married to a white man if that makes a difference for those of you carefully planning your verbal assaults.
PS – And will you KKK members wear something a bit more manly than a white gown? Don’t you find that a little feminine? I mean we know you are all homophobes.. why dress like a transsexual if you are so against it? Just curious..
@April: Are you okay? Or do you need to take your meds? If I had to make an educated guess, I would guess YOU were the one in the dirty trailer, by the way you speak. Get some class, there’s a way to express yourself with out all the obsentities.
Ashley,obviously you are very young.I was forced to go to school with black people starting in the 6th grade they were like savages.They disrupted in the classroom,attacked white kids,attacked teachers.The school administration did nothing.When there was an attack,the media would not tell about it on the news,unless it was a white person fighting back.I WORK WITH BLACK PEOPLE EVERY DAY,THEY ONLY HAVE TO SHOW UP,NO WORK INVOLVED.I live this every day,don,t speak if you don,t know.I am also a christian and I am fed up.
@Barbara Rice: You are a RACIST. To generalize an entire race of people is just ignorance. If you are a Christian, then you need to study your bible more. God NEVER said we should only love white people. Did you know Jesus was not white?
My husband went to school with all white kids, and one black girl. He was forced to defend himself, and the other girl everyday. They were verbally, and physically attacked, totally unprovoked, on a daily basis. My point is there is another side to everything. From what you wrote, I’m guessing you went to school during desegregation. Why do you think that black people in that time had so much anger, and pent up frustration? I’m guessing it was probably the centuries of oppression. What do YOU call a group of people that enslave an entire race of people? I call THAT savage. Animals were even treated better than slaves. If black people are supposed to move forward and forget the past, then white people have to as well. The past between white people and black people is not pretty, we all know that, but it is people like you that keep our country from moving forward and set aside the petty differences. There are bad people in ALL races. And there are attacks of all kinds that come from all sides.
I am embarrassed to call myself a Christian, if YOU are representing the faith.
I am fed up as well…OF PEOPLE LIKE YOU!!!!!!!!!!!
Voter,Maybe you should walk in my shoes before you JUDGE me,or better yet lets leave the judging to our lord and savior.I simply stated what I witnessed as an eleven year old at school.You gave the impression that this behavior should be acceptable because black people have been oppressed for so long.I have studied the holocaust and slavery,no race of people should have been treated this way.people like you are the ones that keep our country from moving forward,you have blinders on.
Voter,I accepted Jesus Christ as my lord and savior 33 years ago,you are obviously very young,when you have been around as long as I have you will have learned patience and you will think before you judge.Pay attention to what you see and read before you comment.Pray dailey and the lord will teach you to love,not judge.You have to learn to see it all, not just what you want to see.With time and prayer you can get rid of your anger,you are to young to be so angry.
@Barbara: Are you seriously calling me angry? This coming from the person who shouts “I HAVE TO WORK WITH BLACK PEOPLE EVERYDAY, THEY JUST HAVE TO SHOW UP, NO WORK INVOLVED”. I am judging you by your post, that’s the risk you run when you put yourself out there as the racist a@@, you are. You are right about one thing though, I DO get angry when I see such blatant racist rantings.
You are so racist, that you can’t even see how racist 99% of your sentences were. Let’s break it down.
You start by calling Ashley young, (judging her a little, don’t ya think?). You’ve proven age doesn’t give you wisdom, or the ability to spell. Next, poor you, you were FORCED to go to school with the “savage, blacks”. Then, they are disrupting your class,and attacking teachers. I can see you are giving a one sided account to that, I am willing to bet, that there was some sort of provoking remark, or slur, or even physical threat made to entice in more than a few of those occasions. I’m not saying there weren’t any bad seeds, there were definitely bad seeds, but there were also some in the white community, as well. Then you say something that completely floors me. The media wouldn’t report unless it was a white person fighting back. Back then society was completely against the black community, no blacks allowed, signs were still posted, making sure black people “knew their place”. Yes, laws were changing, and things were changing, but there were still parts of America, if a black man was caught with a white girl, he was going to get taught a lesson,(that is if he lived through that lesson). Can you even imagine what it was like for the kids that were also forced to go to school with you, knowing they were not wanted there. I find it funny you say ” I should walk in your shoes before I judge you, but have you even tried to think what it was/is like to be black in the USA? Even now a days, there are subtle hints, “remember your place”. You end the post with saying you are a christian, if you were, you would know you are to love ALL your sisters and brothers. (even the savage ones
)
Studying the plights of a race of people, and actually trying to understand what it may have felt like, are two totally different things.
I don’t think retaliation is right. I do think it is important to understand what may be the reason for some behavior. I wonder, if you were “unfortunate” enough to have been born black, if you would have a different outlook.
It doesn’t matter what age someone is, you have no idea what experiences the person next to you, or at the other end of the computer connection had, and that is my point, you are just looking at things from your point of view, and not even letting yourself to stop and think, I wonder what it must have been like for that person?
Voter,obviously you are in denial about your anger problem.You said I shouted ,I have been very straight forward and to the point.I don,t shout,I am not angry.I have not once said I only love white people,If this were so I would also hate myself.Stop and think before you make assumptions.I can only say this,you told me you are a christian,if this is true,ask the lord for deliverance from your anger .I can only pray for Gods healing touch in your life.May God Bless You And Keep You.
@Barbara: First, when you write in all caps, typically, that is interpreted as shouting over the Internet. Second, my “assumptions”, are based on what you said, you said black people are savages, and you said that the media only reports when white people fight back. What was there to misinterpret? You may not have said you only love white people, but you made it clear you dislike black people. You keep trying to bring biblical statements into this, the verses, JOHN 13:34-35,1 PETER 4:8, say exactly what I am saying. I pray that God can take the hate out of your heart, and open your eyes.
I notice you don’t have anything to say about looking at things from someone else’s point of view. All you can do is try to project YOUR anger onto me. I am very happy in my life, I have 3 beautiful children, a husband that treats me like a queen, and a God that loves me enough to surround me with loving people of all colors and races.
Voter,You could give me scripture all day and you will still be angry.You have criticized me for any and every statement I have made.If stating the facts concerning what I lived is racist,then so be it.I may not be as computer savvy as you,but wrong is still wrong.I have no hate in my heart,there you go again judging.I pray that someday you will learn patience and love are far better than anger.
@Barbara: The problem is, you are stating half of the facts, which is what I’ve been trying to get you to see, those things may have happened, but what where the circumstances, what happened before and after those encounters? Desegregation was fought, by both sides, very hard, and for different reasons. I am by NO MEANS computer savvy. I was simply explaining my thought, that you were shouting. You keep telling me I’m angry, I go over the posts, and I can’t understand what would give the impression I am an angry person, except when someone rants racist statements. I have mixed children, and when I think about the racist things I hear or read, it saddens me to think about what my children will endure, or have already endured at the hands of ignorant, racist people. So I try to enlighten people about the stereo types that don’t ring true to all. I think racism brings out anger in alot of level headed people. Other than that, I’m pretty happy go lucky. I do like to have debates, sometimes heated debates, but that’s not anger, that’s to encourage others to see a different view point. I understand that you grew up in a time that was ugly and alot of changes were being made, and it was probably hard to see things from others point of view, but if you just try, then maybe you will see how racist, and extreme your comments were. My grandmother grew up in Ohio, and during the desegregation era, and I have had many en depth conversations with her about what she has seen or encountered. Through our conversations, she has been able to open her eyes and see how its not as black and white as she might have thought. When you have racism in your heart, you have hate in your heart, because hatred is the close cousin to racism.
Voter,I can only state what I have lived,If I had witnessed white kids provoking black kids I would have also stated this.Our government forced this on everyone,without any thought about the consequences.Your children will be fine,times have changed alot .I will pray for you and your family.Maybe you should talk to more people from this time and get there perspective.I can only state what I witnessed.I think you are so sesitive you are reading more into what you read,than what is really there.I will pray for you and your family.God Bless
@Barbara: There’s no “reading into” needed, when someone calls a race of people savages. Did you mean that in an endearing way? My mistake then, I guess I miss read it when you said that black people just have to show up to work and not work, oh I get it, you are giving them credit for having a job, silly me. Oh no, then what on earth did you mean by that statement? Please enlighten me. So I don’t have to read into what you say.
You witnessed what you wanted to witness. You had Selective Witness Syndrome. (I made that syndrome up)
I talk to people of all races, and ages, so I get alot of perspectives. Thank you for the suggestion tho. Hey, maybe you should take your own advice, talk to people and get their perspective. That’s been my point to you all weekend!
You said you were fed up, what exactly is it your fed up with? To someone who is “reading into it”, it looks like you are saying you are fed up with black people, since that is what you are talking about in your post.
I hope that if anyone had any questions about Christianity, did not get the wrong idea from your post, and think of Christians as hateful racist people. When you say you are a Christian, and then say such racist things, you make Christians look bad. If nothing else you have to see that.
You are right, times have changed, but you prove that times have not changed enough, there are still ALOT of people with the same views as you, and you know what, it’s not entirely your fault. I don’t think anyone has cared enough to share their experiences, and hard ships with you, so you could understand. I just hope you could some day just try to look at things from a different view, and realize, that both sides have their faults, and the only way to move forward, is to come to terms with these faults, and set petty differences aside, and not judge others for their differences, instead celebrate those differences, and get to know those differences. After all people are always scared of what they do not understand, and fear turns into hate.
I have to go to bed now, I’ll pray this post finds you with an open mind and an open heart.
Also, in response to your “the government forced this on everyone, with out thinking about the consequences”
You are absolutely right, but where would our country be today, if that first, very painful step was not taken? Change hurts. Until we see the rewards, that is. The Revolutionary War wasn’t easy either… But it was a very needed action.
OMG the posts that keep showing up in my mail on this sad subject of these two young peoples lives cut short makes me sad cant you guys agree to dissagree it aint about u it aint about me it aint even about black white yellow brown and any other f in color ok just stop let it be they are dead killed by crazy people let them rest in peace with god let it go no one is right no one is wrong it is what it is and they are dead let it be.I cant even begin to tell you how dissapointed in the people who used a story such as this one to correct someones spelling have you no respect no heart ive heard jesus name being slang around like a comfort blanket for youalls evil against each other leave him out of this because if he were here he would not approve of any posts by u me or anyone on this subject unlesss it was a caring word now i will be deleting this evil so i longer have to read the anger by all who are here fighting good luck in life and good bye and remember the 2 young people and how beautiful they were gn
omg help them
Voter,I agree with April we will have to agree to disagree.
@April: I agree, but when someone uses this very unfortunate issue to spew racist rants, that is when you take away from the poor victims. If you notice I was commenting on Barbara’s post, which had NO mention of the incident, just how fed up she was with the “savage blacks”. The particular black men in this case, are “savages”. On the flip side I can point to many “savages” in other races. Ted Bundy, Jeffrey Dahmer, John Wayne Gacy, Charles Manson etc. All of which are white, my point is, color has no bearing on the sickness that plagues these individuals. I was just trying to get people to see the absurdity in that way of thinking. We also make a mockery of what these two went through, when we use their story to try to fill our own agenda, and spread hate.
I don’t really expect you to agree with what I am saying, based on your previous posts. Now YOU seem to be a very angry person. Your worst post was deleted, where you had EVERY word a cuss word.
Voter,you are the most angry person,I have encountered on any blog.Please sign up for anger management classes .ASAP
Can someone please do a check and see if Amy and Barbara are the same people, looking at the style of typing, it looks like the same person. Please,
Yes… Barbara and Amy are the same person. People choose multiple personalities for whatever reasons they choose. Perhaps they feel they can say something diffferently as an alternative personality … dunno. I personally favor getting to cyber know with whom I converse.
But, as I am equal opportunity multiple personality identifier…. LOL… the answer is yes.
April? May I suggest you set up a filter on your email for this thread? Then you aren’t forced to revisit it.
Also, if you choose not to get follow ups on a thread, do *not* check the box at the bottom of your first thread contribution that says: Notify me of followup comments via email. After that, a filter is the last resort. I’ve set up a few on particular threads myself when I had just washed my hands of it.
@MataHarley: Thank you Mata, your the best.
@Amy: Barbara, I will take your constant “anger” accusation, as you don’t really have anything to say, to prove me wrong. So God Bless and may you some day have an open mind to what others have experienced.
Voter,so sorry my grandaughter uses my computer too.No multiple personalities here.Been busy with so many cases I have not had time to reply.Barbara
Could someone please check and see if Ashley and Voter are the same person,thanx
I ACCIDENTALLY CAME UPON THIS UNBELIEVABLE NIGHTMARE. I DON’T THINK I’LL BE ABLE TO SLEEP TONIGHT! HOW CAN ANY ‘HUMAN BEING’ DO THIS?! THESE PEOPLE LOOK HUMAN, BUT THEY CAN’T BE.THEY CAN’T BE ABLE TO LOVE, OR CRY, OR EVEN FEEL AT ALL. THERE’S NO WAY!! I JUST DON’T GET IT. POOR YOUNG COUPLE TRYING TO HAVE A GOOD TIME OUT TOGETHER; ALONG COMES THESE DEVILS ROAMING THE EARTH. HOW VERY SAD. GOD BLESS THEM BOTH, AND THEIR FAMILIES.
If these guys had done this in Saudi Arabia, there will be beheaded of these 5 in the public gathering. West blame Islam, Saudi Arabia for Human right violations. Now suggest yourself for such butchers what could be the right punishment other than beheading in Public ( according to Islam).
The only thing fitting for these animals is HELL for eternity.
I pray that no bleeding heart liberal gets in to talk to them about Jesus.
Oh wait….that won’t happen, liberals don’t know Jesus either.
Let vengeance me mind says the Lord. Have your vengeance Lord!
This story is proof that Satan is working as hard as he can to destroy.
God wins in the end and I pray that Channon and Chris will be in His army
when He returns to help do battle against the evil in the world.
It is because of crimes like these why I support the death penalty.
The court system that perpetuates this fiasco is about as evil as the depraved animals who murdered Channon and Chris. They’re dragging it our for years on end and making big bucks in the process. They could do their job tomorrow in less than an hour with a tree, a rope, and a excavator.
I believe those perpetrators should be buried about 20 feet under because I believe individuals like that are really nice deep down.
Ok, on this whole Barbara/Voter arguement:
Not defending or attacking anyone here just want to add a third person perspective.
First, to be a racist one must believe their race to be superior to all others ( ie..Nazi party). Barbara has not stated this and therfore it is incorrect to accuse her of this. People have thrown the word around everytime they disagree with someone for emotional impact. By doing this you are making it a personal attack and not srguing the facts. You may believe she has made bigoted remarkes as that is a more acurate statement ( ie..she is bigoted by her negative experiences).
Also she did not call the entire race of people savages, she stated the few black individuals in her school were “like” savages. You have taken her comment and changed it.
Just pointing out the facts, not trying to stir things up.
As far as the individuals involved in this horrible crime I believe they should be removed from this world no matter their past, race, religion, etc.. I do not see any value in their continued exsistance and would much rather spend the money on keeping them alive and locked up on programs to help prevent this sort of thing and to help those in need.
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If America still had a sufficient number of men in it then these men would quake in their Nikes before they did something like this. The media would fear to play their racist games. They would know there would be a hard reckoning for crossing the rightious. Alas, America is for Liberals and women now. Men need not apply.
I wonder of China still has men?
voter, This was an extremely BRUTAL Hate crime committed by Predators regardless of their skin color. So stop with the Race Card business. These people were Career Criminals that did not belong on the street. Whatever happens to Them, They will have the Due Process and Rights protection that their Victims were denied.
Please drop the Race talk. It just does not work.
I think the police should take them behind the jail,and blow their brains out with a 12 gauge shotgun!!!!!!!!
To the OP: If you’re going to conveniently leave out the fact that Anna Nicole Smith and the Duke Lacrosse players are also high profile people, I’m going to omit the same fact as I counter your argument by saying: oh yeah? What about Kobe Bryant, Michael Jackson, Tiger Woods, and the Mack Daddy of ALL white/black cases OJ Simpson?
Ooooh but OJ and Kobe got off scott free, right? How much jail time did the Duke kids get again?
To all proponents of the OP: Let’s look at the two main
points separately and together:
1) So, if you’re a white victim you’re bound to be ignored? Chandra Levy, Jon Benet Ramsey, Laci Peterson, Jessica Lynch, the aforementioned Natalee Holloway and all the other victims HERE: http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Missing_white_woman_syndrome?wasRedirected=true say hi.
2) Crimes committed by common (as in not high profile) blacks are underreported? Let’s not forget, there is a quantity disparity here. Whites greatly outnumber blacks. Crime stats for blacks are indeed worse than whites, but that is easily explained when you realize that more blacks live in poor, crime riddled areas compared to whites. Now if you take the percentage of blacks from all black citizens and the same of whites out of all white citizens, is a given black man more likely to commit a felony than a given white man? Sadly yes, but at the end of a given year that quantity number will yield more white felons than blacks.
3) Together now: white victims are screwed especially when the perp is black? You’re right. Kinda. MSM does not generally report on ANY case comparable to the Tennessee couple. Give me 5 examples of national media giving mass coverage to brutal crimes of whites on blacks in the past 20 years. Two conditions though: NO HIGH PROFILE INDIVIDUALS. That is, common folk. So don’t give me Rodney King. His case involved the police department of one of the largest cities in the country. Also: NO HATE CRIMES. Sorry folks, but black on white does not a hate crime make. Nor does membership to a supremacist group alone (although of course that would make it likely, but not definite). To suggest a crime is a hate crime because the two parties were exclusively of one race different from the other..in itself..is racist. And to the guy who suggested any race on race crime be classified hate crime if the number of perp’s involved is 2 or more… Really???
Even if this phantom nonwhite bias were true…here’s 200 years worth of revenge served up cold!
Sincerely,
Guy who sometimes feels ashamed to be white.
Jack,
The “missing white woman syndrome” does indeed garner significant media attention, but when a black predator becomes the prime suspect for the disappearance of one of those missing white women … the major media usually loses interest very quickly. Good examples include the exceedingly brutal murders of Paula Sladewski and Anne Pressley. Your points are so weak it is difficult to imagine that you might not be disingenuous. However … if you’re actually white and you feel bad about it … there is a variety of commercially available skin darkening agents that might help you to deal with your “white guilt” problem. Good luck.
I watched the in court session for the trials of these men. After reading the details of what really happened. I honestly believe that all of them should be put to death, and that”s a very LIGHT sentense. They say that all white people are racist, but if the situation was turned around and a young black couple was out and white thugs did such horrible horrible things to them, it’d be on th e news for at least 5 months. It’s not right. I think that they should have done to them what they did to those poor kids. THose kids worked adn went to school, they were a greatness to society. TO think of somebody doing someting so horrid and devilish to two young children, they have no soul, they have no heart. We NEED to do to them what they did to channon and christopher. They’d be scared to death. and that’s the only way to stop sick people doign sick things like this. My heart and prayers go out to the family’s of the victims. I am so sickened by this, somebody needs to do somethin about this. I know Channon and Chris are with God now, But I pray to them.
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ask to God forces families of Christopher Newson and Channon Gail Chistian is very sad and extremely regrettable that is living in this time, the lost affection love for people, all we must fight against the criminal minds , while maintaining strong families United where, love, affection, love, respect for culture and education play a role in the development of children in this way crimes as this minimize, our society must change and leave the differences of race, ethnicity or religion. Children born in families destroyed by alcohol, drugs, never get to socialize and to develop, are not helpful to the entire country otherwise will make a charge and some rogue futures for that reason committed violent crimes without explanation or rationale. It is a simple opinion
I have always said that if someone hurts me or mine don’t bother calling the police. I will handle it. No loop holes or legal games allowing scum to get off on technicalities. I can live with myself if I need to pull the trigger and blow someones brains out. I don’t care what their upbringing was or hardships they incur. A life of drugs or abuse will be corrected in an instant. No need for follow up care or therapy. And just so there is no misunderstanding I will be just as devoted to ending the life of anyone , white , black, brown, yellow or green that warrants my wrath. This you can count on. Not an empty threat or posturing just a fact!
And by the way – WTF is Guatopo trying to articulate??? I can’t make our ANY of it!!
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To your knowledge of world geography GUATOPO is a natural park of profound beauty in a country in South America called Venezuela. In what I read and appreciate your words is a deep malaise towards People who commit crimes of that magnitude! “I can tell you that my experience on the part of police justice, saw many cases where People taking justice by their own hands”"therefore” “pass fall victim to perpetrators, and the justice everywhere in the world pursuing crime as a common way if a situation like that was to happened to me I agree to your actions, but I know how it works, the system of Justice in States Together, part of Europe and South America, you can say that occur technicalities and procedural fault both researchers, in the management of the chain of custody, both by poor handling, pollution or planted false evidence positive and alter the whole, the judicial system at some point fails in sentencing the criminals. I worked as a criminal investigator for 14 years I saw many cases where I felt frustrated because we fought for criminals to be sentenced and the judge left Them in freedom (I REMIND YOU that Criminal actions are individual and PROSECUTED of trade).
OK-Guatopo is STILL not articulate! “To your knowledge of world geography”….WHAT??? Someone needs to learn English!! If you’re going to be posting on an English speaking blog, learn the language! Whatever you are attempting to articulate makes no sense whatsoever! Oh, and by the way…”malaise” is something that my previous post does not even come close to! Look up the meaning! If I suffered from malaise, I would would be apathetic and not care!
Whatever punishment they receive, it wont be good enough. They should all get it Law Abiding Citizen style, with a visit from the basement guys in Pulp Fiction…….
ROADSIDE JUSTICE: take it easy, no need to insult GUATOPO who make sense in his comment.
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Just tweeted this article to my friends. Makes me sick to see what savages some “people” (they don’t deserve to be called such) can be. It makes me even more sick to see how anyone in this comments section can try to be apologetic for these monsters. Scum like them should be shot, like you would a rabid dog. They aren’t fit for society.
This is insane! How could none of the major News agencies take this story on? Are they all on crack? When anyone gets brutally murdered (cut up, set on fire, made to swallow bleach, penis and breasts cut off), the media is usually all over it. This is insane.
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Nah, not old Soviet style justice, but old West Style justice (but with a modification), hang them – one at a time – 1. while the others watched, 2. instead of using a gallows (which makes for a quick death, neck snapping, sudden drop and all), hoist them up slowly (about six inches per half hour), so they get the chance to strangle to death (and as a bonus, while the others watched, take a half hour between executions).
Hell, I’d take time off work and PAY to see that!!
and to Jack, the Duke kids got NO jail time (mostly because the black whore lied), which makes the Duke kids INNOCENT OF ALL CHARGES!!
I watched something about this case on TV and I was surprised that only one of the 4 people actually got the death penalty.
At first I thought that these rich white kids were buying heroin or coke in the ghetto but I live in a city where the only reason people who do not live in a ghetto go there is to buy stuff like this.
I am not from Knoxville and when this horrible crime happened I did not hear about it at all in any national media which was very surprising considering all of the horrible things that happened to both of the victims.
Sadly, television, show no interest in such cases, in my opinion the violent crimes are growing every day, motivated to education, affection, love and common sense, are disappearing in our society. The main product is the breakdown of the family.
MSM did not report this, because it did NOT fit into their “agenda”…. Quite Simple…. that and only WHITES can commit “hate Crimes”.. which in fact, is 100% the OPPOSITE of what REALLY happens in life! I’m no big fan of Randy Savage, but one thing he’s said I believe…. “Liberalism, IS a MENTAL DISEASE”!!
I’d like to see an experiment done to prove my point about the “haters” being on the opposite side of what the MSM claims!
Take two Black folks… “hood” looking types…. and drop them into a VERY white neighborhood, and tell them to walk out to “X” location. Several miles walk.
Now, do the SAME with two white folks, dressed like “suburbia kids”….drop THEM into a very black neighborhood…..and have them do the exact same thing as the first group.
Both groups look “out of their elements”, do not know the area they are in, and BOTH will be watched,spotted, and dealt with fast!
WHICH group will almost surely DIE before they get to safety?? So tell me, WHICH group then, is the bigger Racist and Hater?
Hankster “Which group will Almost Surely Die before they get back to safety?”Neither;Final Answer.
Richard, are those drugs you’re on THAT good??
The Blacks in my “experiment” most likely will see and talk to one or more COPS before making it to point “X”… but that would probably be the worst….
The Whites??? Sorry to say, they’d be dead before they reach “safety”… 95+% certain. I speak from the EXPERIENCE of being in these areas.. day is bad.. Night?? Deadly……
or like a KINDLY old Black man told my folks, when they “got lost” on the FAR SIDE of East St. Louis… “Turn around, go down 5 blocks, turn left to get on the highway.. YOU don’t want to BE here! GO!”
Now of you insist I’m wrong, you are more than welcome to put your ASS where your mouth is, and come on down! I’ll PERSONALLY Drop you off in East St. Louis… and wait on the other end to see if you survive……
You game??
Hankster You pay for my trip from SoCal and give me $1000 if I “Survive the walk max 5 miles”.I’ll give you $1000 cash before I start.
richard wheeler, don’t tempt the devil, think of your loved one, and drop it,
no money is worth getting you kill viciously
Hankster, don’t go with him on this, we don’t need anything more to believe
your word, because you always told the truth before,
as you know, richard is not with us, so there is no need to take him on
Bees, I hear ya…. LOL! Have no fear…..He’s just Another “arm chair warrior” heard from! A quick Google search of the Crime there, and all the areas I mentioned would tell the tale, to the rational man. Richard isn’t all there I think…
Richard, you crack me up! But Your Locale says it all… let me guess, you TEACH at Berkeley?? LMAO!!
Richard and Hankster,
The “morality ” surrounding the use of the word “racist” is a scam invented by Leon Trotsky in about 1930. There is nothing wrong with preferring to associate with your own race more than other races, just as there is nothing wrong with preferring your own family over others. Racial hatred on the other hand is definitely a bad thing. Interracial violent crime rates are a pretty good general measure of racial hated. A publication entitled “the Color of Crime” by the New Century Foundation provides a very good analysis of interracial crime in the US and it uses verifiable statistical information provided by the United States Department of Justice. I believe that publication can provide much more useful information than you could discover with your experiment and it is available online for free. There is no need for you to buy a plane ticket or endanger your life to learn about this subject. I hope this is helpful.
http://www.colorofcrime.com/
Hankster, hi, you are probably right, HE doesn’t know what is going on outside
his parking lot, he proove it everytime he show up, just like his side is telling him
to obey and don’t question leave the thinking to the GOVERNMENT,
good we have CONSERVATIVES in there now, checking for the people
of this great AMERICA: GO CONSERVATIVES,
bye
Hankster Ck. your geography.Berkeley is a long way from S.Cal. Marine Corps put me here and 13 months as a platoon commander in V.N. prepared me for a lot worse than E. St.Louis. Many years ago I dated a lovely African American school teacher from there.Offer stands.
Darryl Thanks for your input.My guess is black on black and white on white crime rates are higher than inter-racial crime rates.
Ms.Bees Did you get my Valentines Day wishes?
richard wheeler, go get yourself kill in AFGHANISTAN if you want to die, at least
your MARINE’s training will save other MARINEs
Hankster, , it just happen I was listening to UTUB once upon a time in the WEST,
is in it appropriate, HENRY FONDA was so great and what’s the name of the other
I realy like in all his movies too, AH shut IT’s on the tip of my tongue,
ENNIO MORRICONE is directing a msterpiece there, beautifull music of all the parts of once upon a time in the west, a must see and listen too
Got the DVD here…. Ennio Morricone composed a TRUCKLOAD of Movie soundtracks… VERY famous guy in his field…
my first time, and not the last, he is a genius
@ Richard….The topic was how Racism is reported very one sidedly, yet the LEVEL of inter race hate is tilted more to one side than the other….. believe it or not. I don’t care. And I’ll be honest, A Marine you might be.. but one against a city full.. be real! Macho only goes so far, a SMART marine knows when yo go in, when to call in backup/support, and when to NOT engage….. he doesn’t WASTE his men mindlessly..or needlessly…. Or so i was taught. Your opinion may vary…
Bees.. yeah, I know! My dad in law was a pro musician.. I’m learning guitar from him now… at 53! Working on Pride n Joy by Stevie Ray Vaughan! You like music that’s a bit different?… Search you tube for “Lady Fantasy” by “Camel”… there’s a live version on there… guy is wearing a white “dress jacket” on the pic on the video, give that a listen to……..
YES I will and thank you,
Richard,
If “black on black” crime were higher in every category than “black on white” crime, would that in any way make black on white crime any more acceptable? If you read the publication, you will see that it is not that simple anyway.
http://www.colorofcrime.com/
Let’s assume that rattlesnakes are dangerous because they are likely to attack us when we are near them. If they also attack each other a lot, should we disregard the danger they present to us?
daryl, hi, I think you pinpoint the best analogy, to make
anyone understand, I thank you
Daryl Interesting read.One thing noted was whites commit crimes at 4x the rate of Asians.Your thoughts on that.What can we as whites learn from this?
Depends how you read it… whites commit 4X as much as Asians?? OR do Asians commit crime only a fourth as much???? Words alter the entire “spin” don’t they???? Now, were these stats based on “total numbers of crimes committed?? Or was is based on per 100,000 people?? The way the numbers are derived makes a HUGE difference in what they mean….. What “possibly true” things can we note here?? Whites are lower in Crime and less violent than most. Blacks, and Hispanics are more violent than most. Why? Is it the “have nots’ take it out on those that have?? Why is Black on Black crime so high??? Inability to leave the “hood” easily?? Without being noticed? Why are Asians so low on the list?? Perhaps their WORK ETHIC, and Family oriented lifestyles makes them NOT NEED to rob, steal and kill?? Most of them excel in education also…. too SMART to need crime to live? Maybe intelligence brings integrity with it?? THESE questions need research.
One thing then, from Darryl’s cite I do come away with… The ethnic groups who are most VIOLENT, and who Commit the MOST CRIMES…. are both LEFT leaning, and the most likely to have the ENTITLEMENT MENTALITY!! HMMMMMMM……. on the Dole…. feel they are OWED stuff (talking Illegal Hispanics here, NOT the legit ones) and I think if you separate the two, legal Hispanics will prove to be Similar to Asians in this respect, LOW on Crime!!
So it’s then, possible to conclude both life situation, and what you’ve been TAUGHT/TOLD in life, colors your view of CRIME as a tool! Maybe if J J and Sharpton and the NAACP quit preaching how badly they’ve been shit on, and instead focused on how via education and hard work , the Black man could rise and event TRUMP others…. the attitude, and these Crime stats, would/could change! But as long as the “poor us” leaders keep telling their people that, as long as OUR LIBERAL LEADERS keep “feeding the pig”… the piglets will remain, and act, the same…. too bad. Democrats of today would rather see their party members DIE of violence, than than see the light, and change their ways….
Well that’s how it looks to me, at a “quick glance” anyway…
Hankster A couple of things.In 2008 pres election Blacks went 92% Dem. Hispanics 67% and Asians 61% BHO VS 35 % Mac Whites favored Mac 53%-47%. I’d suggest both level of education and economic conditions play major roles in crime rates.
A misconception exists among some that illegal Latin immigrants are more likely to commit crimes than their legal brethren. Statistics show this to be false.My lovely Latin wife points out this is partly from knowledge that if caught they will be deported.
I grew up in N.Y and my brother lives in the heart of the city in a neighborhood about 60 % latin 25%white 10% black and 5% asian.I feel safe in his neighborhood and throughout the city.Admit this wasn’t true 30 years ago.Hopefully cities like E. St. Louis can improve in the coming years
ALL RIGHT, LETS GET THI STRAIGHT…. IF THEY WERE MUSLIMS.LATIONOS, OR AS THEY ARE. COLOUREDS. WE CAN’T SAY NOTH’NBUT IF THEY RAPE AND MURDER WHITE CHRISTIANS.. WELL MAYBE THEY SHOULD BE HEROS TO ALL THE LEFT WING ASS WIPES, I’M SURE THE ACLU, THE DEMOCRATS, NEW YORKERS , CALFORNIOS AND SUCH WILL BE BEGGING THEM TO MOVE IN… BUT THEY SHOULD DIE…. NO EXCUSE FOR BE’N A HOMO, COLOURED RAPIST… OH DID I MENTION THEY WERE MURDERS….
Reading about the facts of this case is awful.
It makes one wonder how the idea of parents abdicating the teaching of everything their children learn to union, leftist, amorals is working out.
These killers are 24 and 25.
The female among them was 18.
How did their group dynamics work that allowed them to be so brutal in front of one another?
I have seen nothing telling us that.
But all 5 were found guilty of charges against them.
1 got the death penalty, two others got life w/o the possibility of parole, the female got 53 years and the last man got 18 years.
Tonight I saw an ad for a new movie.
The lead is a little girl…..maybe 11 0r 12.
She is a killer.
Oh, goody.
A role model.
NAN G “union,leftist,amorals” your definition of our teachers?You’d prefer right wing, gun totin,bible thumpers?
post #118 F.A. reader’s thoughts?
@rich wheeler:
RW, Have you noticed that over all the years since the crime and trial there has been NOTHING about the motivations, or even the intelligence of the perps?
How did they become so low?
Parents all too often abdicate teaching their children anything at all.
Because the schools are going to do it.
That leaves teachers.
Obviously some of this ran in a family, as a brother/sister were convicted.
Lousy, lousy situation.
But yeah, the NEA wants to teach sex ed from K through 12.
The NEA has made each mini-culture equal with every other value system.
The NEA has dummied down learning so that Ebonics and other black ”culture” is not graded down…even while not fully understanding what it is they are tacitly approving.
The NEA gets it panties in a collective twist over even a prayer before a ball game.
Whether they mean to or not NEA union members are teaching ”morals” even in their inactions.
Let’s not forget:
Obama/Arne Duncan wish to force all children into 12 hour school days 12 months a year.
They want teachers influencing them during class ans well as through all three meals.
Parent would get to watch them sleep.
Obama Continues to Support Year-Round School [Video]
EDU in Review
Obama Proposes Longer School Days, Extended School Year
Obama’s pal, Bill Ayers…. Domestic Terrorist… BOMBER, killed people….. NOW he’s
A> Still in Prison
B> Was Executed for his crimes
C> Is now a SCHOOL TEACHER!!!!!!
Case Closed. Look at all the Liberal COLLEGE PROFESSORS we have, spewing their nonsense to “fresh minds”…. Nan is right, sorry! And Yes, I’d RATHER someone who advocates “Thou shalt not KILL or STEAL etc over what they come out of school with now, wouldn’t YOU?
Or this attitude…..”“Despite what some among us would like to believe it is not because of our creative ideas. It is not because of the merit of our positions. It is not because we care about children and it is not because we have a vision of a great public school for every child. NEA and its affiliates are effective advocates because we have power.”
Bob Chanin, NEA Union LAWYER…..
NAN May I assume you feel extended teaching of our children by these “leftist,amoral” teachers is an Obama plan to further radicalize our kids.
Gotta believe you are also against collective bargaining rights of teacher,police,firefighter’s unions?
Would you have unions outlawed?
I’m Not Nan… but PUBLIC WORKER UNIONS ?? Yes. Should never have been allowed in the FIRST place!
How can it be “fair” when the Union gets to “negotiate” (HA!) with the very guy THEY gave his job to??? Union elects these guys, so they DO get a better “deal”…. and the DEAL, is OUR TAX MONEY…. crooked to the core. You see Public Unions disbanded, you’ll see the Democrats lose most of their “union Contributions”.. because there’s no “payoff” for them now! or, the BRIBE is gone!
Richard Wheeler, that happen when the union members don’t let the UNIONS do what they are being paid to do themself and not the members doing their jobs,
and everyone knows that they all cross the line, now with the death threats to
an ELECTED GOVERNMENT GOVERNER OF WISCONSIN, WHO IS TRYING TO SAVE THEIR JOBS,
THEY DON’T DESERVE AS FOR NOW.
rich wheeler, more of is that many moderate union’s members want out of their union and are being force to stay in, they are a silent groups who know to stay silent because they know the violence could touch their loved one, but they know now which way their votes will go in 2012
rest assure
Bees Union members stay in so “violence won’t touch their loved ones.” Really believe that?
#124 Liberal college professors “spewing nonsense to fresh minds.”
#118 “Muslims,Lationos,Couloureds can’t say noth’in but they rape and murder White Christians.”
Thoughts from THE FAR RIGHT
Really?? you explain it then….. from a FAR LEFT mind.
By the way, everything said there was factual, too bad you cannot accept it or deal with it.. another “trait” of the LEFT! DENIAL!
Hankster says “everything said there (where?) was factual.” No opinions?
btw Ayers is retired.
THAT is your comeback?? He’s RETIRED?? Why was he even ALLOWED to “influence minds”??? That IS the job of a teacher is it NOT? You are textbook Lib.. duck and change the topic, never answer the QUESTION! LOL!
Um, how about these for starters???
Union members stay in so “violence won’t touch their loved ones.”
#124 Liberal college professors “spewing nonsense to fresh minds.” AYERS perhaps?? etc etc?
#118 “Muslims,Latinos,Couloureds can’t say noth’in but they rape and murder White Christians.”
PROVE them wrong or flawed…. not your opinion, PROOF. Over…
Hankster If you’re stupid or prejudiced enough to believe those statements are all facts then so be it.
My offer (bet) to walk E. St. Louis
still stands. #98
Semper Fi
Far from Stupid sport.. Prejudiced?? I’d honestly say a bit, from personal experiences. But, not at all… I’ve had some Good black friends… I’ve KNOWN some who would cut your throat for .50 cents! I’ve been attacked by some…AND I’ve known Whites who fit the Bill JUST as well. I’ve known some European Muslems, who act nothing like the Mid East variety… So take that however you may…
As to Liberal education and STUPIDITY?? Watch an Episode of “Jaywalking at UC @Berkeley….nuff said.
Union members and VIOLENCE?? Watch videos of Union guys ATTACKING non union protesters in Wisconsin………. or check out the history of their LEADER..One cite here……………
http://disruptthenarrative.wordpress.com/2011/02/28/incoming-afl-cio-president-richard-trumkas-history/
Google more if you desire……
as to the fact “minorities” can crap on us whities, but if WE speak, it’s Racist etc?? Ask Beck, Rush, or even JUAN WILLIAMS! A “liberal” of color who dared to be TRUTHFUL……. “Uncle TOM I believe is the moniker used??? facts are all over if you care to look.
East St. Louis?? hey, knock yourself out! On YOUR dime. I assume you are a combo of Chuck Norris, Bruce Lee, and Rambo eh?? None of them are Bullet proof however….. but what the heck! It’s your butt…… you may be combat trained… but dropped unarmed, in an ARMED enemy territory is suicide in my book… and foolish. Do a Google of East STL crime and stats.. even the COPS don’t want to go in there! LOL! suit yourself. “Macho” does NOT = Bulletproof….
One more thing… the story above that sparked all this, is the SANITIZED version, the ACTUAL account is MUCH more graphic, and a lot SICKER than what they wrote here……. Why don’t you explain to us, what spawned these SUB HUMANS?? And EXACTLY why CNN, MSNBC, and NPR….etc all let this one “slip under the radar”…. um, who were THEY “protecting”???
Hankstersays “Prejudiced.Honestly I’d say a bit” YOU THINK
At least I back MY claims up!! You want info on the Unions?? Read here…
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748704893604576200522251828538.html?KEYWORDS=JAMES+TARANTO
Here’s an excerpt….
Milwaukee radio host Charlie Sykes reports that Wisconsin businessmen are now receiving letters importuning them to oppose Gov. Scott Walker’s efforts on behalf of Wisconsin’s taxpayers:
The undersigned groups would like your company to publicly oppose Governor Walker’s efforts to virtually eliminate collective bargaining for public employees in Wisconsin. While we appreciate that you may need some time to consider this request, we ask for your response by March 17. In the event that you do not respond to this request by that date, we will assume that you stand with Governor Walker and against the teachers, nurses, police officers, fire fighters, and other dedicated public employees who serve our communities.
In the event that you cannot support this effort to save collective bargaining, please be advised that the undersigned will publicly and formally boycott the goods and services provided by your company. However, if you join us, we will do everything in our power to publicly celebrate your partnership in the fight to preserve the right of public employees to be heard at the bargaining table. Wisconsin’s public employee unions serve to protect and promote equality and fairness in the workplace. We hope you will stand with us and publicly share that ideal.
In the event you would like to discuss this matter further, please contact the executive Director of the Wisconsin Professional Police Association, Jim Palmer, at [phone number redacted].
Palmer’s union is the first of the seven “undersigned groups”; the others are two more police unions, two firemen’s unions and two teachers unions.
>>> UNION POLICE are threatening the PUBLIC now!! Now read the WHOLE article, then tell me i’m wrong. YOU WILL, but the REST who read it will get it…THANK GOD!
You know, I’m tired of talking to Liberals… you can SHOW it to them,make em READ it.. make them TASTE it, SMELL it, SEE, it, and EAT it, and they will still argue it DON’T EXIST! “You can’t Fix STUPID”.. i’m done trying… have a nice Liberal life in your bankrupt and dying state……Bye!
Oh yeah, again, in Liberal style, you didn’t answer the question of WHY these subhuman scum did this, if it WASN’T RACE HATE! And why the LIBERAL MEDIA protects THEM??
Hankster You have a problem with unions asking for support from businesses in their fight to keep collective bargaining rights.O.K. Bees suggested union members would invoke “violence on the families” of those who left the union.Her OPINION. Would note the majority of Wi. voters support the right of collective bargaining for all unions.
The scum that carried out this car jacking and rape and murder should be,and have been, fully prosecuted under the law.PERIOD.”Liberal media is protecting them” WTF
What we do know for sure is that you are admittedly prejudiced which can color your vision.IMHO additional blurring occurs when you’re a lemming of Beck and Limbaugh.
As mentioned I’ve walked Harlem,I can walk E.St.Louis.Go Birds
rich weeler you have twisted my reply, and used the words in a diffrent context,
that’s why you have to be constantly watch when you come here, and do it all the time to favor you side
which you’r ready to fabricate lies to have them gain support, read my comment and refocus on the truth that many union members do not agree with the bullying tactics of the UNION ORGANISATION AND WHAT THEY ASK OF THEIR MEMBERS TO DO, INCITING VIOLENCE TO HAVE A RESOLUTION,
WHICH IS THE UNION ORGANISATION JOB TO DEBATE WITH THEIR CLIENTS,
SO THOSE MANY NOT AGREEING WITH THEIR UNIONS ARE CONTINUING TO BELONG TO IT BUT ARE RELUCTANT TO COME UP IN THE OPEN BECAUSE ONE OF THE REASON IS TO PROTECT THEIR FAMILYS FIRST FROM VIOLENT RETRIBUTION FROM THEIR UNION.
NOW THAT’S THE TRUTH
Wheeler.. there is a DIFFERENCE between “asking support” and being THREATENED with actions to DESTROY YOUR BUSINESS! Did you READ the Cop Unions letter??? THAT is what it says they will do… Quote…”In the event that you cannot support this effort to save collective bargaining, please be advised that the undersigned will publicly and formally boycott the goods and services provided by your company.”
In other words, do as we say, or we’ll (Us and all our SISTER Unions) act to ruin you…. also, the “implied threat” is “the next time you call for police help, we”ll REMEMBER this”………yeah, thats right. Cops are putting the UNION above the Citizen here, and THAT sir is WRONG! You’re in the Military? Did YOU fight to defend these MAFIALIKE tactics?? Strongarm, and now “protectionistic actions??? What the hell DO you “stand for”?? except telling us what a “bad ass” you are?” I’m confused here…. this stuff, and the “Red White and Blue” do NOT MIX!
Those threats are the same crap Jesse Jackson uses to strong arm business into giving HIM money…. you now saying JJ is ok too?? Same deal, same tactics, same political party and affiliations…..
Further, I’ve gone back and re-read what you wrote… don’t try and paint me as some sort of racist hater… I just deal in REALITY! Frankly, I don’t care if you are Black, White, Red, Yellow or GREEN!! If you work, do your share, pay your FAIR taxes, take care of your family and kids etc, and “keep your nose clean”… your aces in my book! ANYONE can fit that profile….. just be a good citizen, and obey the law! Now, is THAT too much to ask?? Racist my ass.
Ms Bees You reiterate your belief many union members won’t come out against their union in fear of “violent retribution” against their families.Your opinion.Agreed?
Never claimed to be a bad ass. Just a very fit former Marine Officer who enjoys long runs or walks as the case may be.
I’ve always believed in the historic role unions have played in support of the American worker.
Whatever…. got better things to do.. Bye! You are a Liberal tho, aren’t you?? It shows.
You said “I’ve always believed in the historic role unions have played”…… well Dinosaurs are part of History too, Much like the USS Missouri!! But, their time has PASSED, and they are now just that, HISTORY….. Unions fit that bill. You made up my mind for me, Right to work is coming up in Missouri, I’m Voting FOR IT! Thanks for the help….
In home health workers didn’t used to be organized.
And, being in unions now only means they lose some income to dues.
So, it was interesting to see videos of the way the different unions fought over the ”vote” for which union would win in CA.
One set of videos showed ladies who had not voted or intended to vote but whose ballots were sent in somehow AS IF they voted.
Another video showed interviews of ladies who were obviously foreign-born recounting intimidation techniques used to force them to fill out their ballots for the union they opposed.
YES…..their families were threatened!
Wish I could find all of them now.
The fear rising off of some of those ladies was palpable.
Hankster, Yes, I like STEVIE RAY VAUGHN on PRIDE AND JOY, too,
better than LADY FANTASY from CAMEL, thank you for the link
Anytime.. Music is very special!! Not everyone likes the same type.. as to Pride n Joy.. that’s the Song i’m working on learning now… Stevie Ray was the best!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OoBJXwdn2Jo
Watch this one, note the chord changes he makes with his left hand during the 1st 20 seconds or so…. faster than you can see him form the chords!! Unreal!
You know, if more people just listened to, and focused on things like GOOD MUSIC and such, there’s be LESS WARS! LOL!
Hankster and Ms Bees Music brings people together.Skooks and I are often singing favorites.
Stevie Ray was and still is great! Lower the lights and hear “Please Come To Boston” by Tennessean Dave Loggins.Gotta put a smile on your face.
PEACE
WHOA HO!! Something we can AGREE ON!! Yep, Like the rockers, but Loggins on an Acoustic is awesome. I can remember, when it was a HIT! Dating myself now!! LOL!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mCj96zF11Nw
Video of my Guitar teacher.. my Father in law! He played R&R shows in St. Louis in 1954! Has the paper clippings etc to show it.. YEARS before anyone ever heard of Chuck Berry! Who he knew… also played Lead for Jerry Lee Louis at one time. Albert King… has Christmas cards from ELVIS even! LOL!
Was taught the intro licks to Folsom Prison Blues by Johnny Cash’s lead player.. some real history in that guys head and hands! We DID boof the Sound tho… his son Rob was playing Rhythm there, and we had the mike too close to him, so he overpowers the Lead a bit, why it sounds a bit off, MY BAD!
Bad TYPO!! Jerry Lee LEWIS!! AARRGGHH!!!! Won’t let me EDIT!
I need to get more of him posted to You Tube while I can. Would you believe a few years ago, he had a STROKE and his Fretting hand was screwed up?? Had to RE LEARN how to chord with it!
Chuck Berry still living in St. Louis and playing regularly.Did 2 shows in NYC New Years Eve and duck walked in Chicago New Years Day.He had big hits as early as 1955. Dennis Quaid played a great Jerry Lee in Great Balls Of Fire.
Yep, down at Blueberry Hill in the “Loop”…, plays monthly there… “Berry farm” is out in Wentzville I believe… Got a copy of the Gibson 335 he plays..(tho it’s white and not red).. good deal, couldn’t be “choosey”……great “early rock” tone… are you a “player”?
Boy THIS thread has taken a twist!
Hankster Not a player but I can dream.Got a buddy who says he’ll start teaching me.CK.back in 6 months.
A few years back, I was playing the rhythm part to the song in that video! But, I quit practicing, and am now back to beginner… you got to stay with it…. THAT was at 50-51… 54 and going back at it again!! You’re NEVER to old to Rock and Roll!!! LOL!!! One tip… if you go looking for a guitar, don’t know what type your going for… buy the BEST you can afford, a GOOD guitar is EASIER to play, by FAR! Second, take your pal WITH you. Let HIM check out the guitars for “playability” etc.. they are NOT all the same! Bill took another student of his to Guitar Center, to look for a good Strat.. #22 he tried, was the one he told the kid and his dad to buy!! All same model, all AMERICAN MADE… just some are BETTER than others, so look carefully, and be picky! It’ll pay off in the long run…..
this story made me cry what kind of sick people could do that to these inocent people…i show no simpathy and what punshment they get they deserve they should all go to hell…ad itd be great fro yall to look me up on youtube… search Venus Renawe or Venus Ferrell lol(: