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		<title>By: Skye</title>
		<link>http://floppingaces.net/2007/01/24/the-resolution-for-quitting/comment-page-1/#comment-2520</link>
		<dc:creator>Skye</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Jan 2007 03:34:55 +0000</pubDate>
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When democrats win, Iraqis and US soldiers die.

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&lt;i&gt;We Democrats win.&lt;/i&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<!-- google_ad_section_start --><p>When democrats win, Iraqis and US soldiers die.</p>
<p>&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8211;<br />
<i>We Democrats win.</i></p>
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		<title>By: wordsmith</title>
		<link>http://floppingaces.net/2007/01/24/the-resolution-for-quitting/comment-page-1/#comment-2519</link>
		<dc:creator>wordsmith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Jan 2007 23:48:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Peter, I believe Dean Barnett says it pretty well:

&lt;blockquote&gt;Rightly or wrongly, we feel that Republicans who in the past have supported the war effort are voting now to register their disapproval only due to craven political calculations. Buttressing that sentiment is the fact that not a single Republican Senator has explained what good will come from a Senate resolution belittling a battle effort thatÃ¢â‚¬â„¢s already afoot.

Assuming just for the moment that Republican Senators who support the anti-surge resolution are prisoners of conscience who wonÃ¢â‚¬â„¢t be able to sleep at night unless they speak their minds regarding the surge, these Republican Senators of heightened conscience should note that supporters of The Pledge arenÃ¢â‚¬â„¢t asking them to refrain from being true to themselves; we are, however, beseeching them to do so in a constructive manner. If a Republican Senator sincerely opposes the surge, he should express his opposition in a thoughtful manner rather than by supporting a feckless and reckless resolution that undermines the war effort. And since presumably they have reached their conclusion regarding the surge after careful analysis and deep reflection, they should also be so good as to share with us their ideas for moving forward in Iraq and in the wider struggle against Radical Islam.

FOR SIX YEARS, SERIOUS CONSERVATIVES have responded to every betrayal from a Lincoln Chafee or a Chuck Hagel with continued support for the organizations that enable them like the NRSC. This support in the wake of each and every disappointment said in effect, Ã¢â‚¬Å“Thank you, Senator. May I have another?Ã¢â‚¬Â The cumulative result of this unconditional love has been Republican Senators concluding that their agenda mirrors those of their partyÃ¢â‚¬â„¢s activists Ã¢â‚¬&quot; namely, that we all care about nothing more than the careers of our Congress critters. &lt;/blockquote&gt;

And the best line:

&lt;blockquote&gt;The time has long since come when Republican voters should demand that their office-holders be serious about the war. &lt;b&gt;The anti-surge resolution is a frivolous thing, a pathetic exercise in rear-end covering.&lt;/b&gt; While differences regarding the war tactics urged by the White House are fair game, nakedly playing politics with matters of life and death is not.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Majorities can be wrong.  So you go keep patting yourself on the back, in the comfort of knowing that your majority is on the wrong side of history.


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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<!-- google_ad_section_start --><p>Peter, I believe Dean Barnett says it pretty well:</p>
<blockquote><p>Rightly or wrongly, we feel that Republicans who in the past have supported the war effort are voting now to register their disapproval only due to craven political calculations. Buttressing that sentiment is the fact that not a single Republican Senator has explained what good will come from a Senate resolution belittling a battle effort thatÃ¢â‚¬â„¢s already afoot.</p>
<p>Assuming just for the moment that Republican Senators who support the anti-surge resolution are prisoners of conscience who wonÃ¢â‚¬â„¢t be able to sleep at night unless they speak their minds regarding the surge, these Republican Senators of heightened conscience should note that supporters of The Pledge arenÃ¢â‚¬â„¢t asking them to refrain from being true to themselves; we are, however, beseeching them to do so in a constructive manner. If a Republican Senator sincerely opposes the surge, he should express his opposition in a thoughtful manner rather than by supporting a feckless and reckless resolution that undermines the war effort. And since presumably they have reached their conclusion regarding the surge after careful analysis and deep reflection, they should also be so good as to share with us their ideas for moving forward in Iraq and in the wider struggle against Radical Islam.</p>
<p>FOR SIX YEARS, SERIOUS CONSERVATIVES have responded to every betrayal from a Lincoln Chafee or a Chuck Hagel with continued support for the organizations that enable them like the NRSC. This support in the wake of each and every disappointment said in effect, Ã¢â‚¬Å“Thank you, Senator. May I have another?Ã¢â‚¬Â The cumulative result of this unconditional love has been Republican Senators concluding that their agenda mirrors those of their partyÃ¢â‚¬â„¢s activists Ã¢â‚¬&#8221; namely, that we all care about nothing more than the careers of our Congress critters. </p></blockquote>
<p>And the best line:</p>
<blockquote><p>The time has long since come when Republican voters should demand that their office-holders be serious about the war. <b>The anti-surge resolution is a frivolous thing, a pathetic exercise in rear-end covering.</b> While differences regarding the war tactics urged by the White House are fair game, nakedly playing politics with matters of life and death is not.</p></blockquote>
<p>Majorities can be wrong.  So you go keep patting yourself on the back, in the comfort of knowing that your majority is on the wrong side of history.</p>
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		<title>By: peter from new york</title>
		<link>http://floppingaces.net/2007/01/24/the-resolution-for-quitting/comment-page-1/#comment-2518</link>
		<dc:creator>peter from new york</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Jan 2007 22:35:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Perfect. Any Republican senator breaking with the orthodoxy that this war still makes sense will be punished.  Let&#039;s see where this logic leads. A majority of Republicans still somehow, believe that the war makes sense. They represent about 22% of the country. (68% of Republicans still support the President on this war, 34% of the country is Republican, so do the math) Let&#039;s just pretend they have enough chops to turn out their moderate senators from Congress via primaries.

Excellent. So you&#039;ll have candidates which appeal to a majority of Republicans, but to no one else (independents are even more fiercely against the war than Democrats are these days).  You&#039;ll run them.

We Democrats win.

Go for it.  I&#039;m all for it.  You go enforce your orthodoxy and see how popular your increasingly minority opinion will hold. It was fun thumping your rear ends in 2006. 2008 will be for real.


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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<!-- google_ad_section_start --><p>Perfect. Any Republican senator breaking with the orthodoxy that this war still makes sense will be punished.  Let&#8217;s see where this logic leads. A majority of Republicans still somehow, believe that the war makes sense. They represent about 22% of the country. (68% of Republicans still support the President on this war, 34% of the country is Republican, so do the math) Let&#8217;s just pretend they have enough chops to turn out their moderate senators from Congress via primaries.</p>
<p>Excellent. So you&#8217;ll have candidates which appeal to a majority of Republicans, but to no one else (independents are even more fiercely against the war than Democrats are these days).  You&#8217;ll run them.</p>
<p>We Democrats win.</p>
<p>Go for it.  I&#8217;m all for it.  You go enforce your orthodoxy and see how popular your increasingly minority opinion will hold. It was fun thumping your rear ends in 2006. 2008 will be for real.</p>
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		<title>By: Skye</title>
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		<dc:creator>Skye</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Jan 2007 06:10:49 +0000</pubDate>
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Did that come with &#039;imported Iraqi Acinetobacter baumannii?

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&lt;i&gt;I signed the petition Penis Penis Penis&lt;/i&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<!-- google_ad_section_start --><p>Did that come with &#8216;imported Iraqi Acinetobacter baumannii?</p>
<p>&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;<br />
<i>I signed the petition Penis Penis Penis</i></p>
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		<title>By: wordsmith</title>
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		<dc:creator>wordsmith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Jan 2007 05:33:52 +0000</pubDate>
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bobdevo ejaculated:

&lt;blockquote&gt;wordsmith? -- only in your own wetdreams, nancyboy&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Why don&#039;t go back to Salon and masturbate your peanut-sized intellect over there?

&lt;blockquote&gt; What oddo you think the average age of these 22,000 troops are, a**wipe?&lt;/blockquote&gt;

18-23 years old qualifies as a young man who has made adult decisions to join an all-volunteer army, dickwipe.  Don&#039;t insult them by thinking of them as children.

&lt;blockquote&gt;What is pointless is your mindless support of the most incompetent administration in history - or doyou - like dickless cheney - insist there have been no blunders in Iraq. Yeah, right, and pigs fly. &lt;/blockquote&gt;

What is pointless is your inability to formulate a rational argument.  Hurling invectives won&#039;t win hearts and minds...wussboy.


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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<!-- google_ad_section_start --><p>bobdevo ejaculated:</p>
<blockquote><p>wordsmith? &#8212; only in your own wetdreams, nancyboy</p></blockquote>
<p>Why don&#8217;t go back to Salon and masturbate your peanut-sized intellect over there?</p>
<blockquote><p> What oddo you think the average age of these 22,000 troops are, a**wipe?</p></blockquote>
<p>18-23 years old qualifies as a young man who has made adult decisions to join an all-volunteer army, dickwipe.  Don&#8217;t insult them by thinking of them as children.</p>
<blockquote><p>What is pointless is your mindless support of the most incompetent administration in history &#8211; or doyou &#8211; like dickless cheney &#8211; insist there have been no blunders in Iraq. Yeah, right, and pigs fly. </p></blockquote>
<p>What is pointless is your inability to formulate a rational argument.  Hurling invectives won&#8217;t win hearts and minds&#8230;wussboy.</p>
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		<title>By: goldglove</title>
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		<dc:creator>goldglove</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Jan 2007 04:55:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>First of all, scrapiron is correct; John Warner is a waste of two perfectly good kidneys; he deserted his party and conservatives when he actively opposed the Senate candidacy of Oliver North, who would have won had Warner not put Marshall Coleman, RINO extrordinaire, into a third party bid.  His resolution is a shameful, cowardly act.  I fully expect Biden et.al. to root for defeat in Iraq, but Warner has crossed the line.  If that mass of Elizabeth Taylor-humping wrinkles runs again, I will do all I can to oppose him.


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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<!-- google_ad_section_start --><p>First of all, scrapiron is correct; John Warner is a waste of two perfectly good kidneys; he deserted his party and conservatives when he actively opposed the Senate candidacy of Oliver North, who would have won had Warner not put Marshall Coleman, RINO extrordinaire, into a third party bid.  His resolution is a shameful, cowardly act.  I fully expect Biden et.al. to root for defeat in Iraq, but Warner has crossed the line.  If that mass of Elizabeth Taylor-humping wrinkles runs again, I will do all I can to oppose him.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Jan 2007 02:35:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Question: Among all those lefty fools sputtering their toothless, but putrescent rage has there been ONE lefty commenter who had any rational, mature contribution to make to the much needed discussion on this issue which is so central to our nation during a time of war?
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<!-- google_ad_section_start --><p>Question: Among all those lefty fools sputtering their toothless, but putrescent rage has there been ONE lefty commenter who had any rational, mature contribution to make to the much needed discussion on this issue which is so central to our nation during a time of war?</p>
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		<title>By: Skye</title>
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		<dc:creator>Skye</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Jan 2007 01:50:11 +0000</pubDate>
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Wow, this is high praise indeed, especially from bloggers that I profoundly respect and admire.

I also appreciate the high humor, with representatives of the Salon club for libs making an appearance on this comment thread.

I&#039;m all kinds of happy now!!!

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<!-- google_ad_section_start --><p>Wow, this is high praise indeed, especially from bloggers that I profoundly respect and admire.</p>
<p>I also appreciate the high humor, with representatives of the Salon club for libs making an appearance on this comment thread.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m all kinds of happy now!!!<br />
 <img src='http://floppingaces.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> ))</p>
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		<title>By: sirkowski</title>
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		<dc:creator>sirkowski</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Jan 2007 23:40:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I signed the petition Penis Penis Penis
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<!-- google_ad_section_start --><p>I signed the petition Penis Penis Penis</p>
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		<title>By: bobdevo</title>
		<link>http://floppingaces.net/2007/01/24/the-resolution-for-quitting/comment-page-1/#comment-2511</link>
		<dc:creator>bobdevo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Jan 2007 21:44:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>wordsmith? -- only in your own wetdreams, nancyboy

&lt;blockquote&gt;bobdevo wrote: dumping 22,000 kids into harm&#039;s way

How old are you, gramps? They aren&#039;t kids; but they are among America&#039;s bravest and finest.

What oddo you think the average age of these 22,000 troops are, a**wipe?

What is pointless is your mindless support of the most incompetent administration in history - or doyou - like dickless cheney - insist there have been no blunders in Iraq.  Yeah, right, and pigs fly.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<!-- google_ad_section_start --><p>wordsmith? &#8212; only in your own wetdreams, nancyboy</p>
<blockquote><p>bobdevo wrote: dumping 22,000 kids into harm&#8217;s way</p>
<p>How old are you, gramps? They aren&#8217;t kids; but they are among America&#8217;s bravest and finest.</p>
<p>What oddo you think the average age of these 22,000 troops are, a**wipe?</p>
<p>What is pointless is your mindless support of the most incompetent administration in history &#8211; or doyou &#8211; like dickless cheney &#8211; insist there have been no blunders in Iraq.  Yeah, right, and pigs fly.</p>
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