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		<title>By: thorn</title>
		<link>http://floppingaces.net/2006/11/23/the-92-year-old-criminal/comment-page-1/#comment-76122</link>
		<dc:creator>thorn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 May 2008 12:57:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I cannot speak for others... but i dont hate cops, Curt. I hate thin blue lines, cover ups. I hate the mentality we so often see that when it&#039;s a citizen shot down in forced entries - it&#039;s a good shoot until proven otherwise... but if it&#039;s an officer down, the LE community assumes the citizen is guilty.

I&#039;m not actually trying to extend debate on the matter. I wondered about your thoughts on the case, and you&#039;ve provided them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<!-- google_ad_section_start --><p>I cannot speak for others&#8230; but i dont hate cops, Curt. I hate thin blue lines, cover ups. I hate the mentality we so often see that when it&#8217;s a citizen shot down in forced entries &#8211; it&#8217;s a good shoot until proven otherwise&#8230; but if it&#8217;s an officer down, the LE community assumes the citizen is guilty.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not actually trying to extend debate on the matter. I wondered about your thoughts on the case, and you&#8217;ve provided them.</p>
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		<title>By: Curt</title>
		<link>http://floppingaces.net/2006/11/23/the-92-year-old-criminal/comment-page-1/#comment-75807</link>
		<dc:creator>Curt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 May 2008 05:32:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Given all of this - and given your statement above regarding when you would choose to shoot - would she have been justified in shooting back?&lt;/blockquote&gt;

If she thought we were criminals then of course she would be justified.  Everything comes down to state of mind.  As my post five days later stated, if these cops were found to be crooked (which they ultimately were) I would want them put away for good.  

&lt;blockquote&gt;I suspect you would say no… that only police have the right to defend themselves with deadly force. Citizens don’t have this right, even if they’re attempting to defend themselves against criminal cops.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Retarded.

As I have stated on my blog before, I am a huge 2nd amendment proponent and believe if everyone was able to have a ccw (given training of course) there would be less crime.

But you know what I suspect?  You trolls are just cop haters looking for an outlet on a post two years old.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<!-- google_ad_section_start --><blockquote><p>Given all of this &#8211; and given your statement above regarding when you would choose to shoot &#8211; would she have been justified in shooting back?</p></blockquote>
<p>If she thought we were criminals then of course she would be justified.  Everything comes down to state of mind.  As my post five days later stated, if these cops were found to be crooked (which they ultimately were) I would want them put away for good.  </p>
<blockquote><p>I suspect you would say no… that only police have the right to defend themselves with deadly force. Citizens don’t have this right, even if they’re attempting to defend themselves against criminal cops.</p></blockquote>
<p>Retarded.</p>
<p>As I have stated on my blog before, I am a huge 2nd amendment proponent and believe if everyone was able to have a ccw (given training of course) there would be less crime.</p>
<p>But you know what I suspect?  You trolls are just cop haters looking for an outlet on a post two years old.</p>
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		<title>By: thorn</title>
		<link>http://floppingaces.net/2006/11/23/the-92-year-old-criminal/comment-page-1/#comment-75766</link>
		<dc:creator>thorn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 May 2008 04:47:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There wasn&#039;t a drug buy at the house. The warrant was obtained by lying. Strictly speaking, the entire raid was an illegal entry and gross violation of civil rights. The people shooting at Ms. Johnston had no right to be there; in fact, their actions were criminal. They had no legal right to be shooting at her.

Given all of this - and given your statement above regarding when you would choose to shoot - would she have been justified in shooting back?

I suspect you would say no... that only police have the right to defend themselves with deadly force. Citizens don&#039;t have this right, even if they&#039;re attempting to defend themselves against criminal cops.

If my suspicion is wrong, please let me know.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<!-- google_ad_section_start --><p>There wasn&#8217;t a drug buy at the house. The warrant was obtained by lying. Strictly speaking, the entire raid was an illegal entry and gross violation of civil rights. The people shooting at Ms. Johnston had no right to be there; in fact, their actions were criminal. They had no legal right to be shooting at her.</p>
<p>Given all of this &#8211; and given your statement above regarding when you would choose to shoot &#8211; would she have been justified in shooting back?</p>
<p>I suspect you would say no&#8230; that only police have the right to defend themselves with deadly force. Citizens don&#8217;t have this right, even if they&#8217;re attempting to defend themselves against criminal cops.</p>
<p>If my suspicion is wrong, please let me know.</p>
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		<title>By: Curt</title>
		<link>http://floppingaces.net/2006/11/23/the-92-year-old-criminal/comment-page-1/#comment-75747</link>
		<dc:creator>Curt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 May 2008 04:10:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah, thats what bloggers do.  They update the same post for weeks at a time.  Retarded.

Go read the one I pointed you too and you can get my take on it.  There is a search button on the blog just for that purpose.

And he didn&#039;t say update....he said he couldn&#039;t find a single post after this one.

To answer your question.  Someone shoots at me, I&#039;m shooting back.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<!-- google_ad_section_start --><p>Yeah, thats what bloggers do.  They update the same post for weeks at a time.  Retarded.</p>
<p>Go read the one I pointed you too and you can get my take on it.  There is a search button on the blog just for that purpose.</p>
<p>And he didn&#8217;t say update&#8230;.he said he couldn&#8217;t find a single post after this one.</p>
<p>To answer your question.  Someone shoots at me, I&#8217;m shooting back.</p>
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		<title>By: buzz</title>
		<link>http://floppingaces.net/2006/11/23/the-92-year-old-criminal/comment-page-1/#comment-75742</link>
		<dc:creator>buzz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 May 2008 04:04:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>he looked for the update on this post as would be logical to do.  You know, like you did with updates I, II and III.  So I went to your new post on this and found &quot;But I am withholding judgement for now since I know, from personal experience, how informants can become quite skittish and outright lie when it looks like their names will be found out.&quot;   Which explains the title of the post &quot;The 92 year old criminal&quot;.
&quot;But I tell you what. If I have someone, ANYONE shooting at me, I WILL fire back at them. I will not take a bullet and be put six feet under just because the shooter is a 92 year old women. No effin way.&quot;  Which, in this context means that if you mistake one home for another and break into the wrong house on a no knock raid and wake up a 92 year old woman who justifiable believes her home is being invaded by criminals (as she knows she has done nothing to cause the law to break in and there is a pattern of criminals posing as cops on home invasions, assuming you actually announce yourself) who defends herself, family and home, you will kill them.  And this is acceptable because......Hey!  Your job is dangerous!  Look over here at a unrelated story where someone kills a cop!  Forget about the sloppy police work and disregard for public safety in the 92 year old criminal story.  So back to the above readers question:  Any kind of update on this story?  Here where the other updates are?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<!-- google_ad_section_start --><p>he looked for the update on this post as would be logical to do.  You know, like you did with updates I, II and III.  So I went to your new post on this and found &#8220;But I am withholding judgement for now since I know, from personal experience, how informants can become quite skittish and outright lie when it looks like their names will be found out.&#8221;   Which explains the title of the post &#8220;The 92 year old criminal&#8221;.<br />
&#8220;But I tell you what. If I have someone, ANYONE shooting at me, I WILL fire back at them. I will not take a bullet and be put six feet under just because the shooter is a 92 year old women. No effin way.&#8221;  Which, in this context means that if you mistake one home for another and break into the wrong house on a no knock raid and wake up a 92 year old woman who justifiable believes her home is being invaded by criminals (as she knows she has done nothing to cause the law to break in and there is a pattern of criminals posing as cops on home invasions, assuming you actually announce yourself) who defends herself, family and home, you will kill them.  And this is acceptable because&#8230;&#8230;Hey!  Your job is dangerous!  Look over here at a unrelated story where someone kills a cop!  Forget about the sloppy police work and disregard for public safety in the 92 year old criminal story.  So back to the above readers question:  Any kind of update on this story?  Here where the other updates are?</p>
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		<title>By: Curt</title>
		<link>http://floppingaces.net/2006/11/23/the-92-year-old-criminal/comment-page-1/#comment-75693</link>
		<dc:creator>Curt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 May 2008 02:44:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;The reason I ask is because I can’t find a single post about this case after you posted this. Not that it matters, the old lady deserved what she got!&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Oh really?  Didn&#039;t look to hard huh.....I wonder why.

http://www.floppingaces.net/2006/11/28/the-92-year-old-criminal-updat/

Posted FIVE days after the post you linked to.

Awesome research skills man....just awesome.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<!-- google_ad_section_start --><blockquote><p>The reason I ask is because I can’t find a single post about this case after you posted this. Not that it matters, the old lady deserved what she got!</p></blockquote>
<p>Oh really?  Didn&#8217;t look to hard huh&#8230;..I wonder why.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.floppingaces.net/2006/11/28/the-92-year-old-criminal-updat/" rel="nofollow">http://www.floppingaces.net/2006/11/28/the-92-year-old-criminal-updat/</a></p>
<p>Posted FIVE days after the post you linked to.</p>
<p>Awesome research skills man&#8230;.just awesome.</p>
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		<title>By: thorn</title>
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		<dc:creator>thorn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 May 2008 02:31:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So, Curt...

Now that nearly the entire incident has been deemed a lie and cover-up by the narcotics unit - any current thoughts on the situation?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<!-- google_ad_section_start --><p>So, Curt&#8230;</p>
<p>Now that nearly the entire incident has been deemed a lie and cover-up by the narcotics unit &#8211; any current thoughts on the situation?</p>
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		<title>By: Miggs</title>
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		<dc:creator>Miggs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 May 2008 15:47:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The reason I ask is because I can&#039;t find a single post about this case after you posted this. Not that it matters, the old lady deserved what she got!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<!-- google_ad_section_start --><p>The reason I ask is because I can&#8217;t find a single post about this case after you posted this. Not that it matters, the old lady deserved what she got!</p>
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		<title>By: Miggs</title>
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		<dc:creator>Miggs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 May 2008 15:39:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>originally = original</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<!-- google_ad_section_start --><p>originally = original</p>
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		<title>By: Miggs</title>
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		<dc:creator>Miggs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 May 2008 15:38:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Curt, can we get an update on this story? Has anything major transpired in this case since your originally post?</description>
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