“So I strongly reject that this administration hasn’t been straight with the American people. The minute we found out they didn’t have weapons of mass destruction, I was the first to say so.” — President Bush on 60 Minutes Jan 14, 2007.

. . . Thanks to the commotion caused by the leak case, that damning evidence has slowly dribbled out. By my count we now know of at least a half-dozen instances before the start of the Iraq war when various intelligence agencies and others signaled that evidence of Iraq’s purchase of uranium in Africa might be dubious or fabricated. (These are detailed in the timelines at frankrich.com/timeline.htm.) The culmination of these warnings arrived in January 2003, the same month as the president’s State of the Union address, when the White House received a memo from the National Intelligence Council, the coordinating body for all American spy agencies, stating unequivocally that the claim was baseless . . .

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Hey, Curt. I know you’re sick of me, but just hear me out. Although I don’t believe what you believe, I’m continuing to learn as I go. I’ve spent some time over the past couple of weeks researching claims that have been made by Stephen Hayes, per your request:

Read The Connection by Stephen Hayes and all of his articles written over the past few years…TONS, and I do mean tons of proof. But the left just ignores it all saying “its not trustworthy” and other baloney.

I know you’ve pointed me toward other sources also, but I have to take it one at a time. I’ve balanced my reading of Hayes’ articles with articles by other authors who have attempted to discredit his claims. I just wanted to provide you with one such example to see if you had read it, and if not, if you could read it and let me know what you think.

I really wanted to keep this debate we had civil. However, you started making assumptions about me when you don’t anything about me. I’m sorry, but being against the war does not make me a liberal Democrat, no matter what people like Limbaugh or Coulter may say. I’ve told you a little about myself here

I am first and foremost a Christian. I don’t think I agree with any particular party on every issue, so I can’t say I’m Dem or Rep.

and here,

For the record, I am not registered to any party, I regularly vote for Republicans in my state (Alabama)

and at one point you even accused me of lying:

I am 100% sure you are a liberal Democrat. Your previous comments denying this are more then likely lies.

I can only assume that you think I would even lie about whether I’ve accepted Jesus as my Savior. I don’t take this lightly. I hope you would be a little more careful such claims in the future, especially when you are talking about someone that you don’t know. Just for your info, I’ll provide a little more about myself:

I am for tax cuts, but only if we are not running huge deficits. I am neither pro-life nor pro-choice. I am against gay marriage. I think Social Security needs to be reformed in some way. I also think that we need to do something about illegal immigration, as it is a national security problem. I am obviously against the Iraq War. I was not opposed to our actions against the Taliban. Is there anything else I could provide that would help you figure out where I belong on the political spectrum? I guarantee you it won’t be on the far left.

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You know what? Just go back to wasting your time with your useless fake documents. The funny thing about that is you can find all the “evidence” you want, but it’s not going to do you any good if you’re trying to change public perceptions about the war. Now if you’re just trying to vindicate yourselves, that’s another thing all together. If you’re trying to change public opinion, you’re never going to get anywhere unless you can try not to be so divisive, immediately placing everyone into neat little packages so you can label them and demonize them.

Oh boo freakin hoo….Who in the hell said I was EVER trying to change public opinion? I mean what they hell are you talking about willis?

People such as yourself and other lefties were against it before it started because of one reason and one reason only. Bush was in office. Their golden boy Gore got beat and they cried…so when Bush said the same EXACT things that the Democrats were saying about Saddam he is now evil.

but you’re not going to change anyone else’s mind with a bunch of unauthenticated documents and name-calling.

Calling you a leftist is name-calling now? I see your quite thin skinned.

And again, who said I was out to change anyone’s mind. I’ll let you in on a little secret, not everyone feels the same way you do. The world doesn’t revolve around your opinions….you are not always right nor are you right in this instance.

I know what you will probably do next, based on prior contacts with you lefties, you will pull out your biased polls by the biased MSM to prove that the majority of Americans feel the way you do…no matter that they are heavily weighted to the Democrats. But there was one poll that counted, the 2004 Presidential election 21 months after the Iraq war started…..if the majority felt the same way as you say they do then Bush should have been booted out right?

To the majority of Americans, you’re a bunch of conspiracy theorists, so you’ve got an uphill battle.

Now I know your in la-la land. The majority of Americans understand that you schizophrenic lefties see conspiracies wherever you look, Plame, Wiretaps, the 2002 election, the 2004 election, hell..even 9/11.

What a waste of time you have been.

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Tom – I agree 100%
The Administration has done a Terrible job in explaining things to the public – everything from Social Security Reform to especially the War in Iraq and the WMD information.
I keep thinking in the back of my mind that this was done on purpose, as to not “alarm” the Syrians (As I truley believe the WMD’s were trucked into Syria) and to hold off on dealing with them until we handle the stability in Iraq. But… I can’t believe he was willing to lose to Kerry playing “rope a dope” allowing the press and Dems. to beat him up on this subject. The election was far to close to have gambled with this information.
I also thought when they brought back Karen Hughes (sp?) that they were going to set her loose to educate the public… but I have not seen this done.
I’ve been also thinking that Israel would stumble apone, on purpose the WMD sites in Syria when they went into the Baka (sp?) Valley. This is where I think they have speculated the trucks of WMD’s went to.

Trucks hauling off WMD’s??

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Why the Bush Administration has not made greater use of the secret documents is a mystery, and one of the more frustrating aspects of our current situation.

Bush has not made anything of the extensive documents proving Iraqi association with al-Qaeda or other terrorist groups either. Why?

In fact, Bush almost stopped making the case altogether for the war some time ago. It’s as if he figured the American people would figure it out on their own. Some of us have, but there’s a vacuum, and it’s being filled by the left. If the Dems get control of the House this Novemeber, they’ll try and impeach Bush.

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Absolutely, Iraq had WMD. CIA, AP, New York Times, and Joe Wilson desired otherwise. Our mainstream media sealed the deal.

The WMDs will eventually find their way to New York, since CIA refuses to track them down.

CIA is too busy leaking on Rove, Cheney, and Bush.

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